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Post by SLA44 Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:20 pm

Here is a preview of episode 3 - the final 3 FS dates.  The first part has vocals but the rest is in slow motion without sound.



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Post by rkc1960 Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:33 pm

This is always an interesting time of the season when the end is near and so therefore you start seeing tabloid type stories that are giving distressing reports. Since I was already bored standing in a long line yesterday I decide to pick up a copy of Life & Style and browse through it. Since in the past some stories were true and others were not, some a mixture of both it's hard at this point to separate fact from fiction. In case any of you didn't see anything about this I will give you the low-down on what it said. Take it for what it's worth. If nothing else it is certainly a topic we can debate or laugh about.


It basically said that Chris seriously didn't know what he was going to do in the end. The whole experience was really taxing on him because he wanted to do one thing but thought that would not be the best move for him. What the article proceeded to say sounded as if the women in question were of the final three which would be Whitney, Becca, and Kaitlyn. Supposedly Chris blurted out...on camera...an "I Love You" to one of the final girls and it wasn't the girl that is the F1. The source said, "Chris shocked everyone when he told one of the final women that he loved her. It was like he couldn't help himself. The words just came out, as if he'd been trying so hard for so long to keep them in." One source said viewers may never see the scene as ABC is likely to cut it. It was stated that Chris was obviously crazy about this girl because everywhere she went he watched her with a big smile on his face He never seemed to take his eyes off of her. And supposedly when they got a chance to sneak off for some alone time ahead of the Iowa proposal things got really intimate. Supposedly it was obvious to everyone that they had sex when they snuck off. Not sure how that was so obvious to the crew, but oh well. It was stated that because the girl was told by him that he loved her, slept with her and supposed because of their close connection that she was totally blindsided when he sent her home. They think that instead of Chris going with his heart he went with practicality. As a fourth generation farmer he needs a wife that is willing to make a life in his little hometown that apparently looks more like a ghost town. Supposedly Chris wrestled with whether or not she'd fit into his down home, no frills lifestyle. It also states that the F1 was fully aware of the affection he showered on her competition. A "source" said that unlike her competition, Chris had not given the F1 any indication that he loved her. She supposedly confessed to production members just days before the proposal that she'd poured her heart and soul into a gift for Chris and felt like she was getting nothing in return. She felt like he seemed a bit off. The report said that Chris didn't want a repeat performance of his previous engagement. The relationship ended just weeks before the wedding because he felt she outgrew the life they had planned on the farm. She wanted something more than just being a stay-at-home mom and wife. Since he was scared to go through that again he chose the girl who made it very clear that she was content to stay by his side rather than someone who may want to abandon him and his quiet farm life. He was very vocal about the fact that he wants to start a family as soon as possible and his F1 is on the same page therefore he chose her. He apparently believes he made the right decision and insiders are claiming it's working out. 

Okay, for the sake of argument lets say that the majority of this story is true. Chris said before this season even started that living where he does he doesn't get much of a chance to meet women and that is part of why he did this because he is "looking for a wife and mother to his children." Chris has said on a few occasions just in recent weeks that his fear is that no one will want to live in his little hometown and want the type of life he is offering. With that being said, wouldn't it make sense that he would want to go with more of a sure bet? He said he is falling for multiple women. Not sure how much I believe that they actually fall "in love" with multiple people but they sure seem to lust after multiple people. If he could envision himself more with one person because they had a little more of a connection then does that mean that he is just settling for second best because it's more convenient? Could he actually be in love with the one he let go and only tell the F1 he loves her because that's what they would be expecting to hear along with a proposal?   If that would be the case then I'm thinking that would be a very lousy thing to do. Is it fair to choose someone in the end because the other person wouldn't end up wanting to stay in the relationship and he wants to walk away with someone? Oh, hell no!



I might be wrong but something tells me that if this is true that we are not talking about Becca. I would have a hard time believing that she would end up sleeping with him until she was sure where this whole thing was going.



So, I'm curious to hear all of your thoughts in this possible little soap opera.
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Post by Guest Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:36 pm

rkc -- there have been some stories this season about how he made the "practical" choice for him and his lifestyle.  If so, that is Whitney.

I truly can't imagine him having sex with Becca and then sending her home at the FRC.  Doesn't seem to follow the impression of Chris we have been given.  And then again who knows?  I'll be interested to read more responses.

Soap opera is right!!  LOL!

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Post by rkc1960 Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:42 pm

I believe you're right newto and I don't think he would have sex with Becca and then dump her knowing he had taken her virginity.


Then that could also mean that the woman in question may be Kaitlyn. We have commented here that Kaitlyn seems to have the air let out of her balloon lately. What if she started acting like that because she had really fallen for him and was having a hard time with him appearing to be so into the other women. What if he recognized this and that is why he pulled her aside during that last group date to reassure her and that is also why he gave her the rose and why he also got so upset with Britt because she was basically dissing Kaitlyn because he gave it to her. It shows in the previews that his concern with her is that he thinks she has a guard up due to her last failed relationship and he tells her that he needs her put herself out there. Maybe that is exactly what happened...in more ways than one. lol. There is no denying that they have always seemed to have great chemistry and had a lot of fun together and always seemed to enjoy each others company. But I think we have commented on it here before that when push comes to shove we didn't think she would actually want to move to Arlington, Iowa.
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Post by singlyme Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:36 am

Kaitlyn seems to have shut down and I do believe it's because of Chris' blatant displays with Britt.  Plus, she seems to have younger interests than someone of his age.

I think it would be most difficult, career-wise, for Whitney to give up what she does.  First, you have to find a city large enough for a fertility specialist - and he has to have an opening for employment.  While she might jump at the chance to have parents through Chris, she's most definitely a "people person."  Can't imagine her in that small town.

As for Becca, her demeaner seems more suited to life in a tiny hamlet (lol).  I don't see her falling into bed with Chris in the FS - and I think he'd respect that.  Despite the picture her sister painted, she appears warm and affectionate.

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Post by Guest Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:35 am

JMHO, but I wonder if Becca would give up life in San Diego.  It is such a dynamic city, full of people, fun things to do, shopping, theater, etc.  People fall all over themselves to live there, in that gorgeous climate.  My folks lived there in their retirement, so I've visited many times and still have family there.  I'd leave this crazy climate in one minute if I could to live there.

Don't think Kaitlyn would fit in Arlington, IA, and I don't think she would fit in with his family.  She's just too wacky.  I saw a new picture of her (on her thread?) and she sure looks like Bachette material to me.

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Post by rkc1960 Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:37 am

Singly, I too believed that Kaitlyn's shutting down probably had to do with Britt. Chris was saying that even before Carly told him about what Britt said that he was having suspicions that she may not be completely genuine. Well if that was the case then why was he still appearing "all in" when it came to Britt? That whole situation seemed to put a lot of the girls off. He messed up big time with that one. I'm also thinking that that could be the reason why he seemed so hostile towards Britt when he let her go. I think he wanted to believe that she was for real and I think that because he had this whole think built up in his head that it made him angry. I think that if she had been remotely genuine that he probably would have chose her and took her back to his hometown and treated her like a trophy wife. As to Kaitlyn, I think the younger interests may be part of what would make him hesitate in choosing her because he would maybe be afraid that she would get bored and leave. They always seem to have fun together but I don't think that could be maintained back on the farm in all of the loneliness and that could be what made him nervous about choosing her.


I think he really likes Becca but I can understand the concern he may have after talking to her family. Yes, she is warm towards him and I don't think she would push him away if he put his hand on her leg like her family said she has done before, but if she doesn't really end up falling for him than it would be a bust because I don't think she'll have sex with him if she isn't feeling it. Also, I will be surprised if she ends up confessing to him that she is falling in love with him like the others did....well, like Whitney did....Kaitlyn didn't exactly say it but let a billboard speak for her. lol 

As to Whitney, even though the very edited previews of her voicing concern about how hard she has worked in her career to get to where she is, I get the feeling that it is just that....edited to make it look like she would hesitate moving. I think she would do it in hopes that it would all work out because she already said that she believes that you will do anything or go anywhere for real love. So that will be what time alone will tell if she is the F1....if she believes it is real. Would she stay if she couldn't find work? I think maybe she would but ONLY if she believes he loves her and wants to make a life with her.....FOR REAL. If I was the F1 and started seeing stories like this in the tabloids especially after suspecting that he had maybe even bigger connections with other women, then I would not be inclined to trust him completely and it would cause me to question his sincerity. It will be interesting to see if Chris can pull off keeping his F1.   
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Post by Guest Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:05 pm

Most of the tabloid stories came out after the season was over, or so it seems to me.  Whoever is F1 has had more than three months to evaluate the situation and either stay or go.  Further, anyone who is sucked in by these tabloid stories needs to have their head examined.

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Post by rkc1960 Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:19 pm

Newto, there are people that believe every word in tabloid stories are true. There are people that believe that there is not one word of truth in anything in them. I am one of those people that take it with a grain of salt but at the same time try to keep an open mind about some things because there has been truth to some of their stories in the past. No denying that.
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Post by singlyme Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:03 am

If nothing else, it's fodder for the imagination.  He loves the one he slept with?  Is he talking about the "nap" he took with Britt?  That would be my first thought IF this were true.  It would go far in explaining why Britt was so territorial with him.

Running with a story like this before the season is over is sure to sell a lot of magazines, huh?

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Post by rkc1960 Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:40 am

Singly, that was the first thought that popped into my mind....did he sleep with Britt during their nap? The article stated he proposed to one woman, told another woman he loved her, and I'm not sure if they are insinuating that the girl he slept with was the girl he said that to or yet another girl. That's why I was thinking possibly Britt since everyone's been wondering what happened behind those closed doors. Then in another part of the article they said the girl that he was so infatuated with he snuck off with and production staff members said it was obvious they had sex when they snuck off. That is a part that I highly question because how in the world would that be apparent? Were their clothes unbuttoned, upzipped, put back on different? Were there grass stains all over the back of their clothes like in the bleach commercial? LOL. Something like that seems like it would be a lot of just speculation and gossip.
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Post by SLA44 Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:49 am

Here is another preview that I have seen several times today for the FS dates episode:


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Post by SLA44 Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:13 am

Here are two more links to previews for Monday night's episode:

http://www.eonline.com/news/627854/who-s-making-love-with-chris-soules-on-the-bachelor


http://www.eonline.com/news/627541/the-bachelor-sneak-peek-will-becca-the-virgin-give-in-to-her-temptations
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THE BACHELOR:
FANTASY OVERNIGHT DATES IN EXOTIC BALI

AS CHRIS SOULES’ SEARCH FOR HIS SOUL MATE DRAWS TO A CLOSE, HE SWEEPS THE FINAL THREE WOMEN AWAY FOR FANTASY OVERNIGHT DATES IN EXOTIC BALI, ON ABC’S “THE BACHELOR

Romantic adventures await Chris and the final three bachelorettes – Becca, Kaitlyn and Whitney – as they travel to beautiful Bali. From traditional Balinese rituals to a long languid boat ride across the Indian Ocean to a visit to a Balinese medicine man, the dates are filled with passion and excitement as Chris continues to explore what his future might be like with each of these potential mates. At the end of the evening, Chris will present each bachelorette with an invitation to spend an intimate night together in the “fantasy suite,” with the hope that she will accept. But will she? When will Becca reveal her secret to Chris and will that make a difference in whether she consents to a trip to the “fantasy suite?” Chris is left with a very difficult decision, and he must weigh his priorities before choosing the final two women and sending the other rejected bachelorette home in tears, on “The Bachelor,“ MONDAY, FEBRUARY 23 (8:00-10:01 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.

Chris meets Kaitlyn outside a beautiful temple on the streets of Bali. The couple joins some local people in a traditional Balinese ritual. Kaitlyn aches to tell Chris her innermost feelings, but it isn’t until later that night at a steamy outdoor dinner that she summons the courage to share her deep emotions, despite her fears of being hurt. Will her moving disclosure result in the ending she desires or is this too little, too late?

Chris and Whitney enjoy a sensual boat ride on the Indian Ocean. They discuss her sister’s disapproval of their relationship. Will they be able to avoid this obstruction thrown in their path to love? At a romantic dinner under the stars Chris has some tough questions for Whitney. Is she going to be willing to give up her successful career in Chicago to move to tiny Arlington, Iowa? The moment of truth has arrived. Will Whitney have second thoughts about their future – and the fantasy suite?

On the final date of the week, Chris and Becca visit a Balinese medicine man, where they are able to ask questions about their relationship and their future. Their carefree day belies Becca’s pressing situation. She has yet to tell Chris she is a virgin and it’s almost time for the fantasy suite card. The couple meets for dinner, and Chris needs to find out if Becca is ready to give up her Southern Californian lifestyle and move across the country to a live on his sprawling farm. And what will happen in the fantasy suite - or will Becca not accept the invitation?

More torn than ever, Chris admits he is falling in love with each one of them. At the rose ceremony, Chris pulls one bachelorette aside to clear the air before he decides on the final two women. Will he end up with the lady of his dreams and will she be willing to pack up and move to the farm to be his wife?

http://www.tvgrapevine.com/196-film-reviews/13528-the-bachelor-fantasy-overnight-dates-in-exotic-bali

To see their preview video click on the link above.
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Post by Bach98133 Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:20 pm

Kaitlyn and Chris feeding monkeys.  

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Post by rkc1960 Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:53 am

Bach98133 wrote:Kaitlyn and Chris feeding monkeys.  

http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-bachelor-fantasy-suite/#ooid=lzeWFoczq1WChgw-RjQEuDWx-SzFL88O


This was pretty funny. Can't believe Chris got peed on. LOL
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Post by rkc1960 Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:06 am

SLA44 wrote:Here are two more links to previews for Monday night's episode:

http://www.eonline.com/news/627854/who-s-making-love-with-chris-soules-on-the-bachelor


http://www.eonline.com/news/627541/the-bachelor-sneak-peek-will-becca-the-virgin-give-in-to-her-temptations

I really like Becca, but I just don't think she's going to give her virginity to some guy that she isn't sure wants to be with her. I don't know how much of what she is saying she is truly feeling towards him or if it's things she is being talked into saying for good television.

People are saying they'd like to see her as the next 'ette but I just don't think they should consider it if she isn't yet ready to be intimate with anyone. That's apparently a big part of this.

CH has also thrown Britt and Kaitlyn into the mix of names as the next 'ette. I read that they are waiting until WTA to see what kind of response the possible contenders get as to whom they pick....same as what they did that ended in them signing a contract with JP and we all know that didn't turn out so well. In the same article they had a place you could vote as to your choice of the 3 or 4 names mentioned and so far it looks like Kaitlyn had 40 some % of the vote and Britt only had 20 some %. I guess the last two episodes did Britt in as a favorite for the spot. I hope they don't give it to her anyway. I don't think I could take a whole season of her.
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Post by Guest Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:14 pm

There's a poll on bachandbachettefans.  Kaitlyn is the overwhelming favorite over there as the next bachelorette.

A lot of the posters over there really are opposed to having Britt as the next bachelorette.  She left a "sour taste" in many people's mouths.

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Post by SLA44 Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:03 pm

Here is the link to another preview for tonight's episode:


www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/bachelor-season-19-episode-9-sneak-peek-becca-the-virgin-and-chris-2015232
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Post by SLA44 Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:50 pm

Here is a link to the clip from Chris' s appearance on the The Ellen Degeneres Show today:


http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/23/chris-soules-reveals-hes-found-love-on-the-bachelor-calls-ou/21145768/
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Post by singlyme Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:05 am

I'd finally have some enthusiasm for viewing if Kaitlyn is the next 'ette.   The girl grew on me to the point I really like her.

I'm sorry, but I found the opposite sentiments with Whitney.   She's a "gusher."   That constant peppy personality would, after a while, make me want to slap her away like a whining mosquito.  (Could be I'm just too sober, but don't talk to me until I've had my coffee.)  I think I'm just reading fake where she's concerned - always turned "on."

As for Becca, she's grown to be my favorite. Mature and thoughtful - the only one who's being sensible about the entire process.  She's honest enough to admit she's not ready to bail on her life and move to Arlington with a man who's only been in her world for a couple of months.  (Boil that down to days to account for how much time they've actually spent one-on-one.)   While all these emotions are new and exciting to her, she's not prepared to throw caution to the wind.   Smart girl.

I'm getting the sense that Chris is truly confused about his choices.   When you get right down to it, it's similar to what Forrest Gump's mom said.   Chris is offered a choice of three chocolates.   They all look delicious.   You choose, bite down, and get cream-filled.   THEN, you wish you would have gotten the caramel.

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Post by SLA44 Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:33 pm

Singly  Whitney has been grating on me for awhile now.  I don't think she is the sweet kind person they have tried to make her out to be and I agree that there seems to be some fake involved with her and a little desperate to boot IMO.  That smiley smirk she had on her face when Chris asked to speak to Becca at the beginning of the rose ceremony said a lot to me.  She also talks way too much and wants to be in control all the time - that would wear others besides me out in a very short period of time I would think. 

Becca has been my favorite all along even though she has been hidden most of the show.  She is smart, beautiful and classy.  She does not get involved in drama and uses her head.  I also think they make an attractive couple.

Kaitlyn did tend to grow on people including me.  I would still like to see Carly as the next bachelorette but would be okay with Kaitlyn.  Just not Britt!!!! No
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RECAP FOR FEBRUARY 23, 2015


Hello, and welcome to The Bachelor on ABC. Tonight, Chris will take Becca, Whitney and Kaitlyn to Bali and they will have the chance to go to the I Want To Get—I mean, The Fantasy Suite, which ig the past few seasons are any indication is simply a hotel room with a Jacuzzi, rose petals and candles….but I digress. Let’s see what happens.

Chris is in Bali, thinking of the girls and wondering if he packed enough condoms. He wants clarity at the end of this, which I suppose will come after the Fantasy Suite visits. 

Chris and Kaitlyn’s Date:
This is a huge day for him. Calm down, dude, you already saw her ass a few weeks ago. Anyway, back to the date. They do some cultural activities and enjoy exploring together. She says it feels natural and she does a series of Oh, My Gods when a monkey crosses the street. Okay, that is a bit unusual, I give her that. They also see a bunch of other monkeys and she is scared, especially when one climbs on Chris and pees. I hope to all things holy he showers before they enter the Fantasy Suite. 


They make out and she confesses she is nervous. Well, if people were going to speculate what I was doing in the Fantasy Suite, I’d be nervous too, I suppose. They chat and I tune out because it is boring and I don’t really care. 

The chatter continues over dinner and she admits she has a guard up and wants to let it down.Okay, I can relate to her there. They kiss and he comforts her a bit. 

Welcome to the magical Island Of Bali. Should you decide to forgo your separate rooms, there is a Fantasy Suite waiting for you…but it is a completely cliched room that is remade to look the same every year no matter who the Bachelor/ette is and where the overnight dates are located.  Okay, so I made that last part up, but it really is the same crap every time. Roses, candles, champagne and if they are lucky, a pool or a Jacuzzi. 

She accepts, suddenly doesn’t feel nervous and they start their night together. She sees herself with him forever. 

Chris and Whitney’s Date:
They enjoy a boat ride with champagne as they tour the island. She talks a bit about her sister’s lack of approval, but says she is really only being protective. Chris says it is fine and they make out. They then jump in the ocean, because it is a leap of faith….or something. 

At dinner, they talk about their journey and how she feels she is at a disadvantage because of her job. He says she can drive where she has to go because that is what he does. She says that moving to Iowa isn’t something she would choose, but she wants to be a wife and mom in addition to having her career. However, she would move if she were chosen because that is what she is meant to do…it is not where you are, but who you are with. Or something. She just seems to be babbling.

Hey, do you two want to let America think you got lucky tonight? Here’s your Fantasy Suite key. Have at it! 

Whitney gushes over how beautiful it is, but I am pretty sure it is the same kind of room I stayed in when I was in Vancouver, minus the roses and candles.

Chris and Becca’s Date:
She wants to tell him she is a virgin waiting until she is married to have sex and know the time has come to confess. She is nervous, but girl, if he dumps you for this, it is on him, not you. There is NOTHING wrong with being pure and moral.

They do some sort of reading where they ask questions about their future. It is interesting, but they ask the cliched questions such as if they will end up together and be good parents. 

Afterward, they stand in the water, kissing. At dinner, he worries that she has never been in love and if they will ever get to that level. They talk about their feelings and he says she is incredible. She thinks she is falling in love and they kiss. 

She reads the fantasy suite card and agrees to go there, where she finally confesses she is a virgin. He doesn’t know what to say at first, but he respects her. He also admits he really isn’t surprised. She decides to spend the night and is excited to see what happens. She also says that although she was waiting for marriage, the reality is she wanted to be in love…..and she is all in

The next day, Chris is still questioning his relationship with Becca and how she had some reservations about moving. He talks to Chris Harrison and reiterated everything going through his mind. They also talk about Becca’s virginity. Chris knows Prince Farming has a lot of thinking to do, so he gives him space. 

They all gather in a place  where they are only allowed to hold hands. I am actually interested in this and want to learn more, but of course we are here for a rose ceremony and not a history lesson. I have to go back later to see what it is called. 

 As Farmer Chris goes to meet the girls, they all think about their love for him and how they want to spend the rest of their lives with him. 

Chris takes Becca aside and they talk about their relationship. Again, it is the same BS we have heard all night.  They then go back to the rose ceremony, where Whitney and Becca get roses. 

I swear, this dude did eeny, meeny, miny mo to decide who should stay and who should go. ::headdesk:: ::facepalm:: Okay, I am done, but seriously, what the hell WAS that?

Kaitlyn is sent home and seems really pissed off. He says he isn’t sure he made the right decision and there was no real right decision and basically isn’t helping matters any. Even the animals in the background are protesting and  think it is BS. She leaves in tears and confusion. He is also crying. 

Join us next week for the Women Tell All. Goodnight.

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:22 pm

There were already some pictures of the WTA leaked on another site where Kaitlyn was clearly shown.  However, when he took Becca aside it reminded me of Brad and Ashley.  I was totally shocked when they came back together, and he would not have brought her back to the rose ceremony if he was going to send her home.  However, it was one of the more suspenseful moments I've ever seen on this show.

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Post by singlyme Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:21 pm

The recap mentions Chris talking with CH.  Has anyone else noticed the cold air swirling around CH?  He puts me in mind of a valet.  A robot could do just as good a job at hosting this show.

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