The Bachelorette - Rachel's Season - General Chit Chat

I wasn't sure who was who with Eric.  The guy at the basketball court was a cousin, but I don't know who the lady with light hair was.  Thought it was his mom at first, but then his mom was the second lady with dark hair.  I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised with Eric's family.  The way he described them I thought it would be way different.  Was that their own residence?

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thisoldmule wrote:What in the world was all that with Dean's dad?????  So bizarre.  I wanted to laugh, but also cry for Dean as he went through that.  Very brave of Dean to put his family for all to see and to put himself through that. 

Has anybody heard of whatever 'group/religion/cult/whatever it is that Dean's dad was a member of?

 
I believe Dean said, "Sikh" or "Sikh-like" when describing his father.

My personal experience is similar and so I could relate to almost all parties in that visit.

OK, you are right, Sikh.  I should have looked it up first, didn't mean to sound like I was making  fun of it.  It has origins in India.  

In what way is it similar to you?

I have a friend whose mom died when my friend was 14.  Her dad wasn't much help to the kids.  He seemed to go about his own life, looking for a wife, and neglected the kids.  He seemed totally selfish and had no clue.  My friend , needless to say, has issues with her dad still.  I feel bad for Dean.

Dean is very cute.   

I think seeing Bryan in his hometown explains more about him.  He didn't seem insincere or fake.  When he was talking to those men playing dominoes and he was dancing he seemed charming to them.  And his family was the same.  It's just who he is.  Being his mother's only child made things a little more clear too.  I have a friend who is from Korea and she has an only child, a son, she is EXACTLY the same way about her son.

Peter seemed stand offish.  Maybe he is just too cautious for this type of dating, but glad he is being true to who he is.  The show seemed to edit  Vanessa the same way during Nick's season.

thisoldmule wrote:I wasn't sure who was who with Eric.  The guy at the basketball court was a cousin, but I don't know who the lady with light hair was.  Thought it was his mom at first, but then his mom was the second lady with dark hair.  I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised with Eric's family.  The way he described them I thought it would be way different.  Was that their own residence?

I'm wondering that too.  Didn't Eric say that they lived in the projects in a poor section of town? That looked like a luxury
apartment to me.  I liked his family; they were warm and loving.

Yes, Eric said that.  His family was great.  His mom's explanation of why she never told him as a child that he was loved, made no sense to me. smh  They didn't seem at all like he described them.

thisoldmule wrote:What in the world was all that with Dean's dad?????  So bizarre.  I wanted to laugh, but also cry for Dean as he went through that.  Very brave of Dean to put his family for all to see and to put himself through that. 

Has anybody heard of whatever 'group/religion/cult/whatever it is that Dean's dad was a member of?

That was painful to watch. I felt so sorry for him. He was indeed brave.

Eric's family probably has more money now than when he was growing up and maybe that's why they were where they were.

Dean is one of the best looking men they've had on the show but not ready for 
marriage. He needs to resolve his conflicts with his dad privately and not in front 
of a television camera.  If that is ineffective, he should consult a therapist. 
  

Peter is indecisive and probably wants to be the next Bach.  
I'm still hoping for a surprise Fl as in Des' season.

Well, Dean is going to be on BIP so I don't know if that means he wouldn't be considered for the next bachelor.  I kind of think Dean has more charisma than Peter and could carry the show better, but I could be wrong about that.  I even thought of Eric being the next bachelor and then they would have the first black bachelor, but they will probably completely surprise us with the new bachelor.

I actually feel bad for Dean's dad.  Obviously, he has taken the death of his wife so hard, that he had totally changed his life to probably not have a daily reminder of what he lost.  He sounds as though he has taken it much harder than even the kids.  You could tell from his emotions when he presented Rachel with the feathers, that he is still broken.
I'm sure Dean wanted more of an emotional connection and comfort, but damn, give the guy a little slack.   

Peter's hometown was awkward in the fact that his body language seems to show he isn't as interested in Rachel as he thought he was.  I think he is realizing that maybe their "connection" was short lived or maybe he can sense her heart is with someone else.  

Eric's family was really great.  He finally seemed real, however his interviews at the end of the hometown seemed like he had a little too much wine.  I believe the boy was sauced.

Bryan - I think I fell in love.  Did you see the way he moved?  Wow.

I can't give Dean's dad any slack.  As the parent, he should have made sure his kids were ok.  Last night when Dean tried to talk to him, the dad was an a$$, still only concerned about himself.  Telling Dean he had one foot in the past and needs to move on, showed no concern at all for Dean.

It's an unfair judgement based on only Dean's point of view.   There are other children involved as well. They don't seem to hold such hostility against him (or as it appeared).  

Here is an unfair judgement: Dean is a typical Millennial that needs his hand held throughout his entire life.   He needs to suck it up and stop being so whiny.

I didn't think Dean seemed hostile or rude about his father.  He seems wounded. It might be that his siblings are older than he is and were better able to handle the situation of losing their mother.

I thought Paramroop was rude right at the beginning when Dean walked into the house and Paramroop said  Here comes King Dean.  That sounded hostile and sarcastic to me.

At this point my favorite is Bryan.

I liked Peter from the beginning until the last few weeks. If he didn't want a wife at his age he should not have been on this show. I think Rachel was going to pick him until the last few weeks. Bryan will be the winner. IMO

I understood it that Peter needs more time before deciding that he wants to take someone as his wife.  It seems understandable to want more time.  I think Rachel is kind of impatient and expecting too much too soon.

ITA, Glitter. I've been thinking that for awhile!  As intelligent as she seems, doesn't she understand that what she expects so soon is superficial and honesty should be admired!  I suppose that's why so many don't make it once they have to deal with everyday issues! Reality hits!

Bryan is her best choice - even though his mother is very clingy and over emotional and he is probably a bit of a mommas boy - he has treated Rachel wonderfully from Day 1 and is obviously in love with her. 

I dont see a future with Eric because he is going to be struggling in life and I would think as a personal trainer in Los Angeles he will be working too closely and physically with women clients which is just asking for trouble

Peter just isnt ready to commit - she's giving him a chance but i dont see it happening if it hasnt happened already.

I can understand where Dean is coming from ... when you feel abandoned by a parent it doesnt just go away - you need that parent to feel your pain and apologize in order to move on so Rachel was right to pass on Dean because until he deals with this he will be forever wounded and carrying this baggage into any relationship.

Jumping on a guy and knocking him over, haha.  That would be funny if they put that on a blooper reel.

I felt bad for Dean before they walked into the dad's home, during, and after.  I wondered, too, if he brought up issues to his dad because Rachel questioned Dean about it.  In an interview Dean said the conversation with his dad was four hours, though.  Apparently he had a lot to hash out or wasn't getting anywhere.  I felt that Rachel let Dean go because he hasn't worked out those issues with his dad.  She told him he might not ready for the "next step."

I don't really want to see Rachel end up with Bryan.  I'm not convinced she knows him well enough.  I think he's probably a mama's boy and perhaps would value her opinion over Rachel's.  I agree with rkc, and I would probably run from that situation too.  Or at least ask some hard questions. 

I've been thinking Peter is not ready, but maybe he's also just not into Rachel enough, and he just doesn't realize it.  I have a feeling that if he were a future Bachelor, he would find someone he's into more and then he would be ready.

By the way I heard the ratings are down this season by 24 percent.  I usually don't hear about or care much about the ratings, but probably the producers will be making a change because of that.  I don't mean just more drama.

Maybe one reason ratings are down is how chopped up this season is.  Rose ceremonies in the middle of an episode instead of the end.  That makes it hard to remember what happened or why she might choose one guy over another.  Skip a week, then 2 episodes, skip again.  It takes the steam out of it for me.

Another reason is how predictable and fake some things are.

They said it was only down from JoJo's seasons but on par with Andi and Kaitlyn's seasons.  That's weird.  I certainly don't think JoJo is more interesting than Rachel, but maybe JoJo's bachelors were more interesting.

I felt it was choppy too with the missed episodes, and also I think she could have had more interesting guys on the show.