Re: Episode 8 Hometowns (7/17/2017); Episode 9 Spain (7/24/2017)

by **Glittersisgld** Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:14 pm

I didn't mean to say that I didn't think Peter is interesting. I'm sure in a relationship and one on one he is, but for the show I didn't think he had that certain charisma or whatever you need to carry the show. But then I think they have had uninteresting people on the show in the past.

by Keepthefaith1960(rkc1960) Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:03 pm

Let's be honest...the majority of the people go on this show to be famous in some way or other. It is the rare person (or the delusional one) that goes on it to find love. I don't have a tendency anymore to knock someone for it. I think it's more of a fluke when they actually click and go on to get married. The point I was trying to make is that I don't blame Peter for his hesitancy. Rachel may mean that she wants to get engaged and have it lead to marriage....however, she has made it clear that she wants it pretty damn fast and that is just not realistic. That's can actually scare people off.

As to Juan Pablo, I didn't knock him for not wanting to say "I love you"....I knocked him for just being an arrogant A hole in general. Lol

by **thisoldmule** Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:25 pm

I agree that Peter doesn't have the personality it takes to be the lead. He's is good looking enough but a whole show of just looking at him wouldn't be too exciting. Plus he stated he needs more time to make sure of things before proposing, so that doesn't fit with the show either. A show where they just agree to keep dating afterwards is not what the audience wants. That has been done before, it was called the Dating Game. Rachel said she was on the show to be engaged. If all she wanted was a boyfriend to date then she could do that without being on this show.

There's no way I would want Eric to be the lead either.

Dean seems to be a logical choice. His family situation seems to have gotten people noticing him.

by **Glittersisgld** Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:28 pm

Dean will be on BIP though, so I don't know if that means he wouldn't be the bachelor.

by **therealdfshary** Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:54 pm

Dean is young (26) and has time to be married. Today people aren't getting married that young. As for Peter if he doesn't want to be engaged he is not batchelor material.So who does that leave?? I don't think Eric is batchelor material either. That would mean somebody new.. I vote for that!

by **rkc1960** Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:59 pm

I know that Dean's name has been thrown out there as a good choice for the next Bachelor, but I just don't see it personally. He is too young, too damaged by his family situation, and he doesn't seem to want to talk about serious issues. Only wants to joke whether it is an avoidance mechanism or not. I don't think he would be a able to really hold my attention.

I went back and listened to Rachel and Peter's conversations from this episode and I still happen to agree with what Peter is saying. He said, engagement is a direct reflection of marriage. They are one and the same. It's saying I want to get married to you and he needs time for that. Peter said his belief is that engagement is marriage. He only wants to get engaged once same as he only wants to get married once. He wants to be truly certain that this is the person for him at that time and for the rest of time. He wants to pursue a relationship with the belief that it would lead to an engagement. He went on to say that engagement means we're getting married so lets just set the time now.

Rachel said to him she thinks a proposal is cultivating a relationship and seeing what you have and if it can work outside of that. She said too that she only wants to do it once.

I personally think Rachel is not viewing it right. When you ask someone to marry you it should be because you made up your mind that you want to marry and start a family with that person and then you at that point start planning a wedding. Rachel's description of a proposal is the description of what "dating" is. It's during the dating process that you are cultivating a relationship and seeing if it can work. So that begs the question, why then do you insist on a proposal and ring when you don't even know that person well enough to know if you want to marry them and start a life with them? She is wanting to put the cart before the horse. I just wonder if she is anxious like most women on this show to put that big honking Neil Lane boulder on her hand for the thrill of it? If they both want to only have one proposal and married once in their lifetime then why do it backwards? You are throwing caution to the wind and taking a big risk that you are throwing that once in a lifetime moment away and when the real thing comes along you have ruined that moment because it was already done on a whim.

by **peebeeb** Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:58 am

They can put a ring on it, but for God's sake take the necessary time to really get to know one another away from the spotlight.

by Momsip Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:56 am

I love this show but to quote Rachel (out of context:) I am "low key annoyed" by all the love for Peter. He is good looking but to me he seems not that into her and kind of stringing her along. Eric has really stepped it up the last few episodes in my opinion. I think Bryan could be a good fit for her but his mom situation could be a problem. My friends and I started a podcast for fun recapping the episodes and discussing mommy topics. We just recapped this week's episode last night - you can find our podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spreaker - it is called momsip:)

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