Season 3 E2: "Sin" - 2013.10.6

by miecies Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:35 pm

"Sin"
Emily’s next target is going to take her into uncharted, sacred terrain, now that the former Grayson Global executive is a reformed clergyman. Victoria is going to make a bold move with Patrick, and Margaux will present Daniel with an intriguing proposal.

by **singlyme** Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:34 am

H-m-m-m. Okay. Wild speculation here:

Clergyman: If memory serves, she's never let her father's name touch any of the takedowns. But child porn/pedophilia seems a bit overdone at this time in hostory for a man of the cloth. His reformation might have had to do with guilt over Clarke. Will she think he's atoned properly through service? Meh. I'd guess that would depend on whether or not he's still morally corrupt in the present.

Victoria: One can only imagine. I'm not happy about how they make her look at Patrick - not just like she loves him - but that she's "in" love. Gross. My mind just flitted to something else. His father was her stepfather. Correct? I can't remember how he died. Do you suppose Patrick had something to do with it? LOL. Strange thinking. BUT... with the exception of Jack, everyone on this show is destructive. Even Nolan has jumped onto the revenge train.

Margaux: Daniel's looking for work. My prediction is that she offers him a high position at the American version of her father's magazine. They're making it look like she's carrying a torch for him. Is she? Was that HER dropping her clothes in the promo? If so, I still can't understand why the woman waited years to approach him. She's obviously got a tanker of kerosene to keep the torch lit. Guess we'll find out.

Afterthought: If Daniel has access to a magazine's historical data, I wonder what he might find out if he becomes curious enough to look up someone's past - just for fun to play with a new toy. If he looked up Amanda/David Clarke - his parents? H-m-m-m. Okay...I'm reaching.

Whew

by BlueMoon Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:07 pm

singlyme wrote:
Victoria: One can only imagine. I'm not happy about how they make her look at Patrick - not just like she loves him - but that she's "in" love. Gross. My mind just flitted to something else. His father was her stepfather. Correct? I can't remember how he died. Do you suppose Patrick had something to do with it? LOL. Strange thinking. BUT... with the exception of Jack, everyone on this show is destructive. Even Nolan has jumped onto the revenge train.

Margaux: Daniel's looking for work. My prediction is that she offers him a high position at the American version of her father's magazine. They're making it look like she's carrying a torch for him. Is she? Was that HER dropping her clothes in the promo? If so, I still can't understand why the woman waited years to approach him. She's obviously got a tanker of kerosene to keep the torch lit. Guess we'll find out.

Afterthought: If Daniel has access to a magazine's historical data, I wonder what he might find out if he becomes curious enough to look up someone's past - just for fun to play with a new toy. If he looked up Amanda/David Clarke - his parents? H-m-m-m. Okay...I'm reaching.

First of all, I am looking forward to another episode of Revenge! Smile

Yes, it does look kind of like Victoria is "in love" with Patrick, and, yes - gross!(:

It is interesting that Margaux waited so long to approach Daniel. I do think that is her in the promo. She looks a lot younger than him. Could that be why she waited to approach him? I'm thinking she heard about him in the news, and decided to look him up and see what she could get. I don't buy the magazine idea, either.

Daniel - yes, if he would only get clued in. Although Jack didn't recognize Emily either - he just had this sense that there was something about her. Emily was actually in college with Daniel. While she changed her looks somewhat, she didn't change her voice. Duh

by BlueMoon Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:39 am

Well, Jack says he's "confused," so there seems to be a chance for he and Emily. I think it's good that he's trying to appeal to her about her revenge. I do wonder about everything he told Charlotte though. Did he tell her who Emily really is? The writers conveniently left that open to interpretation, too, unlike letting us know that Daniel didn't have sex with Margaux, which I for sure though he did.

What a dinner party at the Graysons! My word!

Aiden and Victoria - It looks like Aiden is acting alone. Bah, humbug! Why does he have to do this to Emily?(: Crying

What did happen to all the Grayson's money? It didn't go to Emily, did it?

It's just so amazing to see Nolan without a computer.

It was an interesting takedown tonight - completely different from the others. Looks like the priest was for real. I do hope Emily fixes this. I wonder if he noticed her sealing the envelope? I'm thinking that the priest will be there at the bitter end when all is revealed.

Emily is certainly accumulating a lot of enemies this season.

Once again, the hour passed entirely too fast!

by **singlyme** Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:48 am

I was surprised at my reaction to last night's show. I DIDN'T like it - at all.

I ddn't like being kept in the dark as if this show is supposed to be some damned mystery for the viewer. I find I want to be let in on the ground floor. I didn't get hooked on this series for "mystery."

I didn't like seeing Aiden looking for the infinity box. If Vic wasn't standing behind him watching, he had no reason to be looking for it - unless he's truly betraying her. THAT doesn't fit what we know of him and his character.

I didn't like that she took down a reformed priest. Fix it? A little late and a dollar short. Another season of her screwing up?

Although a rejected Margaux was revealed, why make us think for awhile that he cheated? *frown*

I think Jack only told Charlotte enough to assuage her guilt over Declan. But... another mystery. Yeck.

The only mystery I want to really wonder at is whether or not Patrick has plans of his own. As for the rest, I want to wonder what happens next. NOT - what just happened? Remember season one? When we couldn't wait to see what was going to happen? Do you really feel excited with anticipation about next week? Not me.

by **singlyme** Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:00 am

Another thing: This season was supposed to go back to takedowns. They're writing it like Emily is going to begin to doubt her plans. A wronged priest. A remorseful Conrad. Jack in her ear. Even Nolan trying to dissuade her.

by miecies Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:24 am

singlyme wrote:
Do you really feel excited with anticipation about next week?

Actually, I do. But with that being said I agree here....

singlyme wrote:
Another thing: This season was supposed to go back to takedowns. They're writing it like Emily is going to begin to doubt her plans. A wronged priest. A remorseful Conrad. Jack in her ear. Even Nolan trying to dissuade her.

I don't want Emily to start second-guessing herself either. But as far as the reformed priest. If he was really serious about assuaging his guilt why hasn't he come forward to admit his duplicity in the David Clarke cover-up? That's how true confession works. You get absolution from God and then you make amends in the earth realm if at all possible.

Who would have ever thought it would be Conrad who developed a conscience.

Jack & Nolan's actions don't surprise me. These two basically have no storylines. They're Emily's talk-to and don't interest me in the least. Daniel was more interesting with his beautiful dumb self. What a clueless lovesick boy he is.

Now Aiden and Victoria have all my attention. Genius move to team them up. The enigma that is Aiden Mathis is just divine. I happen to like that he's unpredicable.

Charlotte is just a bust. Crista Allen's acting is not good.

by BlueMoon Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:44 am

singlyme wrote:I didn't like that she took down a reformed priest. Fix it? A little late and a dollar short. Another season of her screwing up?

I think Jack only told Charlotte enough to assuage her guilt over Declan. But... another mystery. Yeck.

The only mystery I want to really wonder at is whether or not Patrick has plans of his own. As for the rest, I want to wonder what happens next. NOT - what just happened? Remember season one? When we couldn't wait to see what was going to happen? Do you really feel excited with anticipation about next week? Not me.

I didn't like that, either. Neither she nor Nolan could find anything on him, and yet, she took him down anyway.

I think the writers want us to wonder about Charlotte, but Jack probably just told her as little as possible.

Victoria didn't waste any time telling Patrick about how she feels about Emily.

I still look forward to the next episode.

by BlueMoon Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:49 am

singlyme wrote:
Another thing: This season was supposed to go back to takedowns. They're writing it like Emily is going to begin to doubt her plans. A wronged priest. A remorseful Conrad. Jack in her ear. Even Nolan trying to dissuade her.
I don't want Emily to start second-guessing herself either. But as far as the reformed priest. If he was really serious about assuaging his guilt why hasn't he come forward to admit his duplicity in the David Clarke cover-up? That's how true confession works. You get absolution from God and then you make amends in the earth realm if at all possible.

Who would have ever thought it would be Conrad who developed a conscience.

Now Aiden and Victoria have all my attention. Genius move to team them up. The enigma that is Aiden Mathis is just divine. I happen to like that he's unpredicable.

I thought they spent a lot of time on Emily feeling remorseful. Of course, the title of the episode was "Sin," and the opening lines were about "forgiveness." However, it was like the whole episode was nothing but second-guessing on Emily's part. Plus, she's going it alone now - Nolan isn't much help and Aiden isn't there for her. I really liked it that Daniel didn't cheat on her.

I agree - Conrad with a conscience?

It is a "genius move" to partner up Aiden and Victoria. He is unpredictable. Actually, I think he and Jack have a lot in common as far as Emily goes - they both have a "love/hate" type feeling about her right now. I just can't believe he would betray Emily like this.

by miecies Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:05 pm

BlueMoon wrote:
It is a "genius move" to partner up Aiden and Victoria. I just can't believe he would betray Emily like this.

I don't believe it. Aiden's agenda is bigger than getting back at a girl who wouldn't run off with him. That's high school antics. It's never the obvious on this show. I'm not buying this "betrayal" one bit. Emily's isn't his target. Most likely Daniel is and probably because of whatever went down between them on the finale. Plus he told Victoria a bunch of lies and produced enough evidence to gain a little of her trust.

by BlueMoon Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:18 pm

miecies wrote:
BlueMoon wrote:
It is a "genius move" to partner up Aiden and Victoria. I just can't believe he would betray Emily like this.
I don't believe it. Aiden's agenda is bigger than getting back at a girl who wouldn't run off with him. That's high school antics. It's never the obvious on this show. I'm not buying this "betrayal" one bit. Emily's isn't his target. Most likely Daniel is and probably because of whatever went down between them on the finale. Plus he told Victoria a bunch of lies and produced enough evidence to gain a little of her trust.

You've got a good point. It is "high school," and things are "never the obvious on this show." I think you're right that he wants to take down Daniel, and that it has something to do with the finale. Aiden loves Emily.

by **singlyme** Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:46 am

Wow. Not much activity here. We used to throw wild speculation back and forth all week. Too early to find a direction for our suspicions?

by miecies Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:37 pm

singlyme wrote:Wow. Not much activity here. We used to throw wild speculation back and forth all week. Too early to find a direction for our suspicions?

Pretty much. But you know with this show WILD specuations are just as likely to happen as anything tame. Because right now I'm thinking the priest might shoot her if he finds out what she did. She felt guilty after she realized all the good he was now doing for the needy/poor especially children. If the priest officiates the wedding (and finds out after the ceremony that it was Emily that set him up) I can see her running up to him and saying I'm sorry. TALK ABOUT A SCANDAL!

I honestly don't think it will be any one of the main cast members.

by BlueMoon Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:19 pm

miecies wrote:
singlyme wrote:Wow. Not much activity here. We used to throw wild speculation back and forth all week. Too early to find a direction for our suspicions?
Pretty much. But you know with this show WILD specuations are just as likely to happen as anything tame. Because right now I'm thinking the priest might shot her if he finds out what she did. She felt guilty after she realized all the good he was now doing for the needy/poor especially children. If the priest officiates the wedding (and finds out after the ceremony that it was Emily that set him up) I can see her running up to him and saying I'm sorry. TALK ABOUT A SCANDAL!

I honestly don't think it will be any one of the main cast members.

I think that's a great guess! I just can't imagine that he didn't see her sealing that blue envelope. It could account for the stomach shots, too. However, . . . who knows what the rest of the episodes will bring us? Smile

Who else could the writers come up with that was in DC's life and did him wrong that we haven't already met?

by **singlyme** Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:53 am

miecies wrote:
singlyme wrote:Wow. Not much activity here. We used to throw wild speculation back and forth all week. Too early to find a direction for our suspicions?
Pretty much. But you know with this show WILD specuations are just as likely to happen as anything tame. Because right now I'm thinking the priest might shoot her if he finds out what she did. She felt guilty after she realized all the good he was now doing for the needy/poor especially children. If the priest officiates the wedding (and finds out after the ceremony that it was Emily that set him up) I can see her running up to him and saying I'm sorry. TALK ABOUT A SCANDAL!

I honestly don't think it will be any one of the main cast members.

What I was talking about is that we have no "weekly" speculation. Everything, so far, is a projection to the shooting. We have nothing to be excited about for next week.

The priest would have to revert to his old ways in order to shoot Em. I'm hoping he was channeled to a new parish and not defrocked. That's what happened to our old priest when he had an affair with a married church member. Yes. It happens. Don't know why they don't allow priests to marry. It would solve a lot of problems - including that side door into children.

by miecies Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:39 am

singlyme wrote:
What I was talking about is that we have no "weekly" speculation. Everything, so far, is a projection to the shooting. We have nothing to be excited about for next week.

Oh, gotcha. Well I'm excited about what Aiden & Victoria are up to. Their partnership is teeming with possibilities.

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