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Post by singlyme Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:21 am

Test.  Every time I set this up - even though I use the upper "New Topic," it ends up in the bottom section.

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Post by rkc1960 Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:23 am

Okay...now I see it. Only when you did the test. I guess we're okay now.
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Post by rkc1960 Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:40 am

I watched UnReal and it looks like it's going to be a real revelation as to how much manipulation really goes on with The Bachelor/ette series. Yeah, I can see where there is the possibility to get carried away with it but I think all in all they will use a lot of instances of things that have truly went on and reveal it.


It surprises me that uber fans of the Bachelor/ette series still truly believe that this show is genuine in most ways when the proof is just the opposite. The shocking part is not that a couple gets engaged at the end and break up in a couple of months but that any lasting couples have ever come out of it at all.


The screening process of this show has also really been called into question since people have thought for a long time that they at least take out the mentally unstable people and have just assigned roles for the remaining contestants as personalities emerge. UnReal came right out and said how unstable people are invited onto the show and they encourage crazy actions so they can assign these roles. Can you even imagine the editing process after watching UnReal? Now instead of wondering which parts were edited I'll be wondering how little bit of it you can pick out has any truth at all...especially for a "reality" show.


I'm sure the Bachelor/ette franchise is scrambling now that UnReal has aired it's first episode. I'm waiting for the expected denial that any of this truly goes on in hopes of saving any reputation they may have left.


As UnReal has a former producer from the Bachelor/ette series as one of it's creators it will be interesting to see what all they reveal as time goes on with this show. I'm quite sure she will draw from first hand experiences that she has witnessed. I am hoping though that people will realize that this is not just a spoof to poke fun at the Bachelor/ette series but that it is in fact exposing some true goings on of the show and how manipulated it truly is. 
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Post by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:09 pm

I wonder how much pressure Lifetime is going to get from ABC and perhaps other networks which run reality shows, such as A&E and FYI to pull the show.  This is going to be interesting.  Stay tuned!!

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Post by singlyme Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:17 am

newto, I don't think Lifetime would submit to any pressure if the ratings are good for UnREAL.

Last night, I was confused at Rachel using Anna's footage.  Her character is so resigned to following orders, despite how she feels about them.  She seemed genuinely concerned about getting Anna to the funeral and sympathetic to her plight.  Yet...to get that money, she threw her under the bus.  Surprised the writers are having her manipulate for her own benefit.  Doesn't really make sense to me.  If I had a breakdown due to manipulations of the show, I can't see how I'd do it for myself.  ???

What on earth does Quinn see in that slob of a creator?  Forget the gorgeous wife.  He looks like a sweaty, unkempt slob.

Despite my apathy for Sean's season, I like the Sean-like bachelor.

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:51 pm

Sadly, I seem to "crap out" at 10 o'clock and therefore have not seen any of the show.  I keep forgetting to record it.

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Post by rkc1960 Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:23 pm

Singly, most of us would have a real problem in using someone that we feel bad for and want to help them. I think this is a point that Sarah Gertrude Shapiro (the former producer for The Bachelor/ette) is trying to make about her previous employers. You can have human emotions but you have to basically sell your soul to the devil to do the job of producer/handler for that franchise. I personally couldn't possibly ruin someone all to make "good television". That is not something I could ever consider but I'm sure there are plenty out there without much of a conscience that could pull it off.


I agree that even though Quinn is a ball-buster, she could definitely do better than Chet. Makes you wonder if she drew any of his character off of Mike Fleiss. lol.  
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Post by singlyme Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:25 am

That was my point, rkc.  Rachel is (as they put it) soul-sucked at having to hurt these contestants.  YET, she manipulated the film of Anna to get the $5,000 so she could pay off her own blackmailing ex-roommate.  That was for personal gain, not for the show.

Plot-wise, I wonder if this show is really going to give us much to talk about.  ???

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Post by singlyme Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:23 am

Okay...Chet goes through with announcing a divorce.  Next, he stages a romantic proposal to Quinn because he loves her SO much.  Then....he gets a BJ from an intern??????  Puh-leez!  That was beyond believable.  He should still be feeling the afterglow of his engagement to Quinn.  Six months later, maybe.  But the timing was just too "off."  Or are the writers  trying to emphasize what a sleaze he is?

Does anyone think Rachel will end up having Adam pull her into the FRC (or diamond bracelet ceremony) and propose to her instead of one of his contestants?

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Post by WidderWoman4 Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:36 pm

I am absolutely hooked on this show!

"We are selling true love, here.  True love, people!"
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Post by slacknatwork Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:36 pm

singlyme wrote:Okay...Chet goes through with announcing a divorce.  Next, he stages a romantic proposal to Quinn because he loves her SO much.  Then....he gets a BJ from an intern??????  Puh-leez!  That was beyond believable.  He should still be feeling the afterglow of his engagement to Quinn.  Six months later, maybe.  But the timing was just too "off."  Or are the writers  trying to emphasize what a sleaze he is?

Does anyone think Rachel will end up having Adam pull her into the FRC (or diamond bracelet ceremony) and propose to her instead of one of his contestants?

yes, they were showing what a sleaze he is, and how he exploited the fact that the intern was willing to do anything to be in the business (remember how she said she didn't care that Quinn talked to her like trash?)  What I couldn't figure out is why Quinn took her ring off, then told him she wanted to get married right away.  I've only seen episodes 5 through the present so I don't know all the backstories, but I've got them set to record! Love this show!
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Post by WidderWoman4 Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:46 pm

I wondered about that, too, Slackn.  Perhaps all will be revealed tonight.
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Post by singlyme Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:48 pm

I have a feeling Quinn's got a big surprise for Chet.

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Post by WidderWoman4 Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:07 am

Quinn had big surprises for everyone, in fact.

OK, so Quinn is going to lower the boom on Chet.  And she has set Adam and Rachel up to see things her way or she'll put out the tape of them having sex.  That would ruin things for Rachel with Jeremy.

Meanwhile, Adam wants Rachel to run off with him.  Tune in next week for the exciting season finale or, as they say in reality TV, the most amazing conclusion ever!
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Post by singlyme Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:38 am

Rachel really can't catch a break, can she?

It seems no one on this show can get away with anything.  lol.  Chet's BJ is witnessed by Quinn.  Quinn's efforts to get Madison to file a lawsuit is reported to Chet by the older woman.  Rachel is caught on film with Adam.  Yikes.

And poor Rachel is going to end up in a psych ward if the pressure and guilt doesn't let up.

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Post by WidderWoman4 Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:13 pm

No kidding, Singly.  And then there's Rachel's mother...
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Post by BAL91182 Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:51 pm

I love this show. I missed last night's episode, but I can catch it here on the web.  Quinn is so evil!  I just want to reach thru the screen and slap her silly!  Do love Rachel and Adam together.
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Post by ATN Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:14 pm

This is seriously the best show on t.v. (right now).  I am so hooked!  Every week it just keeps getting better and better (and darker and darker). 

How accurate do you guys think all of this is to what really goes on behind the ABC Bachelor?
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Post by WidderWoman4 Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:16 pm

ATN, I'm guessing it's pretty darned close.
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Post by ATN Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:53 pm

New preview is up for next week!  Looks juicy!  It's the "most dramatic finale ever!"  LOL
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Post by WidderWoman4 Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:45 pm

Follow the link and go vote.


UnREAL Is 'Terrible,' Bachelor Host Chris Harrison Incorrectly Claims

By Andy Swift /   July 28 2015, 2:38 PM PDT


Who snuck sour grapes into Chris Harrison's lunchbox? In a new interview, the Bachelor host tears into UnREAL  — Lifetime’s fictional behind-the-scenes look at a reality dating show — with some choice words for the drama.


“The main difference that I’ve seen is that people watch The Bachelor,” Harrison tells our sister publication Variety. “It’s complete fiction. As much as they would love to jump on our coattails — they were begging for us to talk about it and for people to write about it — at the end of the day, no one is watching. I mean, absolutely nobody is watching that show. Why? It is terrible. It is really terrible.”

To Harrison’s credit, The Bachelor averaged 8 million viewers last season, and The Bachelorette this season averaged south of 7 million weekly viewers, up 4 percent from its previous cycle. Airing at 10 o’clock, UnREAL draws a tenth of that — averaging 700,000 viewers and peaking at 815K (with its series launch).


That said, the Lifetime drama was co-created by former Bachelor producer Sarah Shapiro, who might know a thing or two about what goes on behind closed doors. As for the show being “terrible,” its critical acclaim and early Season 2 renewal say otherwise.

“You only do that when you are part of the vernacular,” Harrison adds, comparing UnREAL to Bachelor spoofs on Saturday Night Live. “If not, you can’t make a joke. It’s a sign of respect. The way that UnREAL took it, it wasn’t a sign of respect. They were trying to take it another direction, but it doesn’t work that way.”


http://tvline.com/2015/07/28/chris-harrison-unreal-interview-lifetime-drama/
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Post by ATN Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:50 pm

Hey Chris Harrison!  I'm watching it and I LOVE it!  It is the best show on t.v. this summer!  It's a heck of a lot better than ABC's show!  

I wish more people knew about it.  I only started watching because Space made a thread about it.  

Sour grapes is right!
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Post by WidderWoman4 Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:04 pm

Poor Chris.  He and his pals are being exposed.
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Post by rkc1960 Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:06 pm

I had to get caught up on the last two episodes today. I can't believe it is already time for the season finale. They just don't make enough episodes of any show anymore.


Sometimes I don't know how to feel about Quinn. She is so manipulative in getting what she wants in all things, but I feel bad for her when Chet does her wrong. Chet is a real piece of crap and I wonder if his character was fashioned after anyone in particular. lol


Rachel has certainly found herself in a pickle. Wonder how the whole thing with Adam will turn out considering they were renewed for a second season and this season's finale will be about Adam's season of Everlasting ending. Even if they highlight the new show with Adam and whomever, I'm still not sure how they will pull it all together. It'll be interesting to see.


This show has certainly surprised me in that I am liking it better every week.


As to CH taking issue with this show? Pfft...who cares? I find it funny that if the show wasn't any threat to them that it would just be laughed off. Instead they are trying to put the show down by saying no one watches and try to claim the Bachelor/ette is not fake like UnReal is claiming. I was wondering how long it was going to take before the Bachelor/ette franchise spoke out in protest of this show. You have had other previous contestants talk about the producer manipulation that goes on so you know it's a fact even though they are trying to downplay it. I also found it interesting during ATFR when Shawn and Nick were in the hotseat that they were talking about how things were really not how they were portrayed. When they both looked at CH at that moment, he was quick to change the subject. I'm sure that there is a whole lot of truth in what UnReal is portraying. 
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Post by Ughwhatname Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:18 pm

According to the poll, as unscientific as it is, the Bach team is at 1.58%.  Team Unreal is above 90%.

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