Did Kaitlyn seem angry at Nick at the ATFR?

Lesallee wrote:I agree with you, rkc. Kaitlyn seemed more on edge and a bit apprehensive with Nick than angry. He does have a reputation for bombshell comments.

skt8word wrote:As I was watching the ATFR, I was wondering why they spent all the time that they did with Nick and Shawn, discussing the relationship between Nick and Shawn.  It's like ABC was trying to patch up things between them to make Nick look better and for a moment I thought maybe they were considering Nick for bachelor.  But he is not well liked by many, so... maybe not.

As for Kaitlyn, I couldn't help thinking Andi gave her a stern warning about what Nick might say at the ATFR. lol.  She looked tense.

rkc1960 wrote:I personally didn't look at it as being angry at him, so to say but more on the annoyed side. Same as Andi and Josh seemed annoyed with him after.  


Nick has a reputation now for outing people and not keeping anything to himself. If something went down between him and someone he professed to 'love' then in my opinion it needs to stay private and consider everything a lesson learned. By telling the world private things he is not gathering any brownie points with most but villainizing himself even more.


I think when he was talking to Kaitlyn on ATFR that she looked like she was on the edge of her seat wondering just what was coming down the pike to cast her in a bad light...after all, he did it to Andi so she knew something was coming. Since everyone already knew they slept together he couldn't exactly out her for that. So instead he outed her for apparently saying she loved him. That was really no big surprise because this is not the first time that a lead has done that and I'm sure it won't be the last. They usual say things like that to multiple people. He took it to heart and he maybe should have known better than to assume he was the one.


My opinion is that if Nick is really truly looking for a woman to have in his life that he needs to just stay away from this franchise, like he said he was going to do (yeah, right) and just find a nice girl outside of the bubble. Now that he is saying that he would consider being the next Bachelor if asked tells me that he really isn't sincere about it in the first place. Personally I think he is still too despised right now to take that position. A lot of people still don't like him.  

Zinart wrote:I don't know if this was discussed already. Sorry if it has been. It bugged me when I saw Kaitlyn and Shawn on t.v. I think it was on an entertainment show. They were laughing at Nick and the pain that he went through. I thought it was very mean and uncalled for. They were making fun of how Nick threw the rings when he was in the car leaving. Did anyone else see that or hear about it?

Zinartwo wrote:The more I see of Kaitlyn and Shawn, the less I like them. I never liked Shawn. He is very arrogant and I don't understand why he is. He doesn't seem all that special to me. He is a bully. I think that Kaitlyn chose him because he seemed so crazy about her. I'm still not convinced either that Shawn really is that much in love with her. It seemed as though he was desperate to "win" the show and get his "prize". He wanted so much to beat Nick in this game.

Zinartwo wrote:Hi everyone. Thanks to all who told those from ABC board about this board.

I don't know if this was discussed already. Sorry if it has been. It bugged me when I saw Kaitlyn and Shawn on t.v. I think it was on an entertainment show. They were laughing at Nick and the pain that he went through. I thought it was very mean and uncalled for. They were making fun of how Nick threw the rings when he was in the car leaving. Did anyone else see that or hear about it?

idoiwill wrote:

Zinartwo wrote:Hi everyone. Thanks to all who told those from ABC board about this board.

I don't know if this was discussed already. Sorry if it has been. It bugged me when I saw Kaitlyn and Shawn on t.v. I think it was on an entertainment show. They were laughing at Nick and the pain that he went through. I thought it was very mean and uncalled for. They were making fun of how Nick threw the rings when he was in the car leaving. Did anyone else see that or hear about it?

I think that Kaitlyn laughs a lot when she feels uncomfortable.  She also laughs at other people's pain, to try to make light of it.  Finally, I think she love to have the focus on herself, and Shawn.  She was tired of talking about Nick.  This entire season has been about him, or so it seems. 

What's weird to me, is how much more over Nick is of Kaitlyn, compared to how he was with Andi.  He also seems to be much more forgiving of Shawn compared to Josh. 

I felt like the during most ATFR  leads have apologized to the person who came second, and they tried to make them feel better, but both Andi and now Kaitlyn were bristles towards Nick.  It's strange to me.  If I had broken a guy's heart, I would do everything I could to soothe it.  I would be as sweet as I could be.  I would also reach out to them to apologize before ATFR, it's only good strategy.  Andi could have easily avoided the fantasy suite reference, and Kaitlyn could also have easily smoothed things over with Nick.  It's weird to me, how prickly both women were towards Nick. I find him annoying, but I didn't lead him along for an entire season, and I didn't bed him.  He's arrogant, but both Andi and Kaitlyn knew this, and still went for him.

BSkeptical wrote:

idoiwill wrote:

Zinartwo wrote:Hi everyone. Thanks to all who told those from ABC board about this board.

I don't know if this was discussed already. Sorry if it has been. It bugged me when I saw Kaitlyn and Shawn on t.v. I think it was on an entertainment show. They were laughing at Nick and the pain that he went through. I thought it was very mean and uncalled for. They were making fun of how Nick threw the rings when he was in the car leaving. Did anyone else see that or hear about it?

I think that Kaitlyn laughs a lot when she feels uncomfortable.  She also laughs at other people's pain, to try to make light of it.  Finally, I think she love to have the focus on herself, and Shawn.  She was tired of talking about Nick.  This entire season has been about him, or so it seems. 

What's weird to me, is how much more over Nick is of Kaitlyn, compared to how he was with Andi.  He also seems to be much more forgiving of Shawn compared to Josh. 

I felt like the during most ATFR  leads have apologized to the person who came second, and they tried to make them feel better, but both Andi and now Kaitlyn were bristles towards Nick.  It's strange to me.  If I had broken a guy's heart, I would do everything I could to soothe it.  I would be as sweet as I could be.  I would also reach out to them to apologize before ATFR, it's only good strategy.  Andi could have easily avoided the fantasy suite reference, and Kaitlyn could also have easily smoothed things over with Nick.  It's weird to me, how prickly both women were towards Nick. I find him annoying, but I didn't lead him along for an entire season, and I didn't bed him.  He's arrogant, but both Andi and Kaitlyn knew this, and still went for him.

I think you have pointed out quite concisely and quite brilliantly the kind of persons Andi and Kaitlyn are.  They don't do sweet.

rkc1960 wrote:

BSkeptical wrote:

idoiwill wrote:

Zinartwo wrote:Hi everyone. Thanks to all who told those from ABC board about this board.

I don't know if this was discussed already. Sorry if it has been. It bugged me when I saw Kaitlyn and Shawn on t.v. I think it was on an entertainment show. They were laughing at Nick and the pain that he went through. I thought it was very mean and uncalled for. They were making fun of how Nick threw the rings when he was in the car leaving. Did anyone else see that or hear about it?

I think that Kaitlyn laughs a lot when she feels uncomfortable.  She also laughs at other people's pain, to try to make light of it.  Finally, I think she love to have the focus on herself, and Shawn.  She was tired of talking about Nick.  This entire season has been about him, or so it seems. 

What's weird to me, is how much more over Nick is of Kaitlyn, compared to how he was with Andi.  He also seems to be much more forgiving of Shawn compared to Josh. 

I felt like the during most ATFR  leads have apologized to the person who came second, and they tried to make them feel better, but both Andi and now Kaitlyn were bristles towards Nick.  It's strange to me.  If I had broken a guy's heart, I would do everything I could to soothe it.  I would be as sweet as I could be.  I would also reach out to them to apologize before ATFR, it's only good strategy.  Andi could have easily avoided the fantasy suite reference, and Kaitlyn could also have easily smoothed things over with Nick.  It's weird to me, how prickly both women were towards Nick. I find him annoying, but I didn't lead him along for an entire season, and I didn't bed him.  He's arrogant, but both Andi and Kaitlyn knew this, and still went for him.

I think you have pointed out quite concisely and quite brilliantly the kind of persons Andi and Kaitlyn are.  They don't do sweet.

All of this leads me to one big question in my mind which has been brewing there for a while...Is it a coincidence that both of the last Bachelorette's that were involved with Nick and both F1's seemed annoyed with him after and not very sympathetic towards him? Or is there something more there that we don't know and therefore the annoyance sprouts from that?


 We do know that Nick reached out to Andi before ATFR and was rejected but did anything else occur? Did he try to reach out to Kaitlyn in anyway that we don't know about? I can't help but think there is more going on that is causing such annoyance just with Nick. I know just from what I have seen that he annoys me so I can't even imagine how he could possibly grate on someone's nerves that has been involved with him. He has such bad luck in relationships for a reason. If he was all that great than he would have someone by now.

BSkeptical wrote:

rkc1960 wrote:

BSkeptical wrote:

idoiwill wrote:

Zinartwo wrote:Hi everyone. Thanks to all who told those from ABC board about this board.

I don't know if this was discussed already. Sorry if it has been. It bugged me when I saw Kaitlyn and Shawn on t.v. I think it was on an entertainment show. They were laughing at Nick and the pain that he went through. I thought it was very mean and uncalled for. They were making fun of how Nick threw the rings when he was in the car leaving. Did anyone else see that or hear about it?

I think that Kaitlyn laughs a lot when she feels uncomfortable.  She also laughs at other people's pain, to try to make light of it.  Finally, I think she love to have the focus on herself, and Shawn.  She was tired of talking about Nick.  This entire season has been about him, or so it seems. 

What's weird to me, is how much more over Nick is of Kaitlyn, compared to how he was with Andi.  He also seems to be much more forgiving of Shawn compared to Josh. 

I felt like the during most ATFR  leads have apologized to the person who came second, and they tried to make them feel better, but both Andi and now Kaitlyn were bristles towards Nick.  It's strange to me.  If I had broken a guy's heart, I would do everything I could to soothe it.  I would be as sweet as I could be.  I would also reach out to them to apologize before ATFR, it's only good strategy.  Andi could have easily avoided the fantasy suite reference, and Kaitlyn could also have easily smoothed things over with Nick.  It's weird to me, how prickly both women were towards Nick. I find him annoying, but I didn't lead him along for an entire season, and I didn't bed him.  He's arrogant, but both Andi and Kaitlyn knew this, and still went for him.

I think you have pointed out quite concisely and quite brilliantly the kind of persons Andi and Kaitlyn are.  They don't do sweet.

All of this leads me to one big question in my mind which has been brewing there for a while...Is it a coincidence that both of the last Bachelorette's that were involved with Nick and both F1's seemed annoyed with him after and not very sympathetic towards him? Or is there something more there that we don't know and therefore the annoyance sprouts from that?


 We do know that Nick reached out to Andi before ATFR and was rejected but did anything else occur? Did he try to reach out to Kaitlyn in anyway that we don't know about? I can't help but think there is more going on that is causing such annoyance just with Nick. I know just from what I have seen that he annoys me so I can't even imagine how he could possibly grate on someone's nerves that has been involved with him. He has such bad luck in relationships for a reason. If he was all that great than he would have someone by now.

Anything is possible with these shows.  However, Kaitlyn and Andi are the only ones in control of their reactions to anyone.  Laughing at the other person in interviews and blasting such other person on Twitter are on them not the receiver.  As far as "If he was all that great than he would have someone by now" - we can say that about every person who has ever appeared on this show.

rkc1960 wrote:

BSkeptical wrote:

rkc1960 wrote:

BSkeptical wrote:

idoiwill wrote:

Zinartwo wrote:Hi everyone. Thanks to all who told those from ABC board about this board.

I don't know if this was discussed already. Sorry if it has been. It bugged me when I saw Kaitlyn and Shawn on t.v. I think it was on an entertainment show. They were laughing at Nick and the pain that he went through. I thought it was very mean and uncalled for. They were making fun of how Nick threw the rings when he was in the car leaving. Did anyone else see that or hear about it?

I think that Kaitlyn laughs a lot when she feels uncomfortable.  She also laughs at other people's pain, to try to make light of it.  Finally, I think she love to have the focus on herself, and Shawn.  She was tired of talking about Nick.  This entire season has been about him, or so it seems. 

What's weird to me, is how much more over Nick is of Kaitlyn, compared to how he was with Andi.  He also seems to be much more forgiving of Shawn compared to Josh. 

I felt like the during most ATFR  leads have apologized to the person who came second, and they tried to make them feel better, but both Andi and now Kaitlyn were bristles towards Nick.  It's strange to me.  If I had broken a guy's heart, I would do everything I could to soothe it.  I would be as sweet as I could be.  I would also reach out to them to apologize before ATFR, it's only good strategy.  Andi could have easily avoided the fantasy suite reference, and Kaitlyn could also have easily smoothed things over with Nick.  It's weird to me, how prickly both women were towards Nick. I find him annoying, but I didn't lead him along for an entire season, and I didn't bed him.  He's arrogant, but both Andi and Kaitlyn knew this, and still went for him.

I think you have pointed out quite concisely and quite brilliantly the kind of persons Andi and Kaitlyn are.  They don't do sweet.

All of this leads me to one big question in my mind which has been brewing there for a while...Is it a coincidence that both of the last Bachelorette's that were involved with Nick and both F1's seemed annoyed with him after and not very sympathetic towards him? Or is there something more there that we don't know and therefore the annoyance sprouts from that?


 We do know that Nick reached out to Andi before ATFR and was rejected but did anything else occur? Did he try to reach out to Kaitlyn in anyway that we don't know about? I can't help but think there is more going on that is causing such annoyance just with Nick. I know just from what I have seen that he annoys me so I can't even imagine how he could possibly grate on someone's nerves that has been involved with him. He has such bad luck in relationships for a reason. If he was all that great than he would have someone by now.

Anything is possible with these shows.  However, Kaitlyn and Andi are the only ones in control of their reactions to anyone.  Laughing at the other person in interviews and blasting such other person on Twitter are on them not the receiver.  As far as "If he was all that great than he would have someone by now" - we can say that about every person who has ever appeared on this show.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that point. I don't tend to want to paint Andi and Kaitlyn as mean girls just because they have made comments about Nick who basically has deserved a lot of what he has gotten. 


Yes, we can say that many from the Bach Bubble should have someone by now if they were that great. However, many of them were clearly never really about wanting someone but are more into the wanting to be a part of this silly franchise and the 'celebrity' status and group partying that comes along with it. Nick has a tendency to fall for these leads and fall hard to the point that it upsets his family. That is why I made this statement about him in particular.