Bachelor 19 - Episode 11 Discussions

This has been one crazy season. I remember watching this preview after this weeks episode and thinking that the things I read about the other day could very well be true this time. That he may be choosing based on "needing a wife, not a girlfriend" as his sister said. His own father says that Whitney is a sure bet but he thinks it's Becca that he wants. These things are coming from the people that know him best. That opening scene shows him getting a little upset with Becca because he obviously wants an "I'm all in" and he wants an answer NOW. Sorry Chris but life doesn't work that way. If I was Becca I would have said, "screw you" and just walked away. I wouldn't want to at a moments notice uproot my life either for a man I hardly knew. I know that there is scripting associated with this show but I don't think this man's complete desperation is an act. That scene at the end between Becca and Chris' mom doesn't look all that nice either. I wouldn't be surprised if Becca walked away at the end saying screw all this. They are trying to put a lot of pressure on her to do something she doesn't seem willing to do right away. I don't blame her. All I can say for Whitney is that she must have really fallen hard to want to do this....or she's desperate to get married and start a family too.  

You know, Kaitlyn made that joke equating the FS to test-driving a car.  Do you suppose either of these women would test-drive living in Arlington before committing to a life there?

rkc, you've reminded me of the spirit of the pioneer women, living all alone on a plot of land on the prairie.  No neighbors for miles.  It would be difficult to find a woman like that today, particularly on a show like this.

I really don't see Chris giving up the land.  It seems he'd be miserable anywhere else.  He might well end up alone when it's all said and done.  As others have said, he might do better on that match site for farmers.

This article contains a spoiler, sort of.  It does not say who Chris chose at the end, but it does say the way he reached his final pick was somewhat different than previous seasons.

http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/television_news/2015/02/in_love_with_two_remarkable_women_the_bachelor

I see we got "nothing" from the previews.  About what I expected.

rkc1960 wrote:There's a match site for farmers? LOL. I really don't see him giving up what has made him a lot of money either. Plus he seems very close with his family and I don't see him leaving that either. I would assume that whoever he chooses for a wife whether it be by this show or some other way that a big part of it would have to be becoming close to his family so they would have some sort of social interaction with SOMEONE. I don't even remember, other than the one sister that lives in another country altogether, did any of his other family members live in Arlington? 

Yes, there's a farmers' match.  I see it advertised on tv.  After seeing how difficult it's been for Chris, I guess the farmers need one.  lol.

I don't recall if we ever learned where his siblings live.  There was certainly a houseful when he took Andi to his hometown.  Whether or not they lived nearby is not clear to me.

You'd have to hold a gun to my head to make me travel 60 miles to work and 60 miles back every day.  But that's just me.  I'm sure there are people who would do it.  If I went to Arlington, it would be to immerse myself in the life that exists there.

rkc, there must be some basis regardomg the isolation, since Chris is so insecure about it.  There must be smaller towns around there where they can at least buy groceries.

I've had some thoughts about Jade.  The first being that she was hand-selected by his sisters.  Second, she's from a small town.  Third, she's the only one who got an Arlington date which included meeting his parents (and I'm sure others who didn't appear on camera.)  If not for her brother's comments (compounded by the nude photos), I think she would have gone all the way.

Whitney is the only other woman who's met anyone from his inner circle.  Does that really tell us anything?

Singly -- maybe Whitney meeting his friends was for them to ring in on what they thought of her, and for Chris to get some other opinions if he had any nagging doubts.  I only remember one other time when someone met friends, and I think it was Jason meeting Melissa's friends because her parents did not want to go on camera (correct me if I'm wrong).  I'm not really sure it tells us anything outright.

It made me feel Chris wanted a stamp of approval from those close to him - about someone he was seriously considering.  Jade and Whitney.  Then, her family blew it for Jade.  Whether he'll admit it or not, I think the nude photos had serious consequences.  He said his friends are very conservative.  Of course, that lame brother didn't help much.  He sounded like he was trying to warn Chris off.  I wonder how much a hellion she was growing up. 

Thanks for links, SLA.  After the dates this season, I guess proposing in a barn is to be expected. lol.

Disregard

Ignore the above. Couldn't figure out how to delete the post and it made me put something in it so hence the word "disregard" LOL

anyway....

I too have always believed he sent Jade home due to the Playboy thing even though he would never admit to it. Those closest to him are conservative as is the town folk in Arlington and he said that if he chose her that he would have to "deal with it" as in taking care of the situation and I think it just wasn't worth it to him since there were other girls he had feelings for. Whether Jade likes it or not she did come off as a shy timid girl and that compared to what her brother said was disturbing to him I'm sure even though he said he should have used other wording in his blog. He was told she was wild and that she moved out of a small town to move to LA to get into the entertainment/modeling industry and that she probably wouldn't want to move back to a small town...and we all know how sensitive Chris is to that. I just think she should have fessed up to the Playboy thing sooner and let the chips fall where they may. If she really did develop some sort of feelings for him than it would have saved her hurt as well. I am not a big fan of keeping secrets from someone you care about. She apparently also did some soft porn work for CHIVE. And not that Chris has any room to talk about alcohol arrests but apparently her criminal history was for a DUI, an arrest for possession of alcohol as a minor, and charged with 2 counts of theft. Yes, she certainly is a mystery.

And once he makes his decision, will his love be reciprocated?

That's a pretty revealing question - IF it's valid.  It spells B-E-C-C-A.

With the exception of Molly and Melissa, have they ever had both women at ATFR?  TPTB have become so notorious for bait-and-switch, one never knows what's true.  Perhaps he proposes to both - a proposal for more time with each before he decides.

The final two are always at the AFTR, be they men or women.  Supposedly it is to give the person who was not chosen a means of closure.  The only exception is when there is no AFTR due to the couple having broken up in the time following the FRC, such as in Travis Stork's season.

Okay.  Now I remember Nick's reveal with Andi.  lol.

I thought Chris was desperate to get a commitment from Becca.    But I think she was realistic about not wanting to quit her job and move before determining if she was truly in love.  Last night, for the first time, however, I got the impression that something's amiss with her.  I saw a fear in her of taking that step toward commitment and letting down her protective walls.  Can't help but wonder if something in her past caused this, because her unwillingness to let go and experience love is puzzling.  Still, I think she's the one he wanted.

When Chris and Whitney were sitting on his couch and Whitney was going on and on about how much she loved him, his face was screwed up. I thought he was going to dump her.

I couldn't decide all night if Whitney reminded me more of a car salesman on speed or Tinkerbell, sprinkling love and fairy dust in her wake. By the end of the show, I actually had an aversion to her.  Everything she said was another blurb in the relentless self-promotion program.  She LOVES everything.  Everything about him.  Everything about Arlington.  Everything about his home.  She even loves the picture on the table.  Blech.  I wanted to smack her upside the head.

Can you imagine that voice when it lends itself to carping instead of praise?  OMG, I'd go out of my mind.  He can barely get in a word around her.  Imagine when she starts complaining.

In MHO, I think Chris settled.

So what do you think of the Bachelorette news?  A show designed to further humiliate one of these girls.  The audience response to Britt was subdued until the question was asked the second time.  I got the idea the applause sign came on.  lol. 

Britt will give them each one of those hugs of "promise of things to come."  And Kaitlyn will be left in the dust.  I can understand why she said "It isn't ideal."  No way I'd want to be up against the beauty of Britt when guys have one night to decide.  It's going to be a superficial choice - and Britt is also quite good at saying what a guy wants to hear.  If they choose her, I'll have to tune out.  I don't see any romance with Britt ending well.