Season 3: In For A Wild (Sexier) Ride

The quadrangle has been definitely reduced to a triangle. Who's the odd man out?

And then there where 3.

Emily is issued an ultimatum to get it done by the summer's end. Who would dare threaten the Prada wearing sociopath?

The End of the Line

Victoria & Patrick stars in Oedipus Rex for one season only. Maybe?

Shakespeare in the Hamptons

Where's Waldo? Ooops, I mean Aiden.

Aiden 2.0

Is it Sept. 29 yet?

Hi, mieces!  Are those lines for real???

I'm not anxious for September 29 simply because (for me) it'll mean the end of summer weather.  LOL.

After last season's rough writing, I don't have the anticipation that I once did.  Hopefully, they'll put a little more realistic spin on things this time around.  (Who am I kidding?)

I must admit to wondering if Daniel was shot - or Aiden.  But perhaps the intro of Patrick heralds the exit of Vic's younger son.  Just realized how muddy I am about how we left things.  Did Charlotte succeed in killing herself?  Or was it a cliff-hanger?

singly those are my lines. They're links that will take you to spoiler articles. I think you might be a little more anxious once you read them all.

And then there where 3.

The odd man out seems to be Daniel in the write-up.  Makes it sound like the heart focus is on Aiden and Jack.

The End of the Line

Sociopathic?  Jeez, Louise.  I don't like thinking of our Em this way.  It says that Jack gives her the ultimatum.  Seriously?  "Okay, get your revenge, but you have five minutes."  ????  She'll take a bullet? 

Shakespeare in the Hamptons

Aiden in bed with Vic?  Oh, yuck!  I hope they don't really play up the incest slant with Vic and Patrick.  That would make for some disgusting TV.


Aiden 2.0

Did we ever learn Takeda's stake in all this?  *furrowed brow*  This piece hints at Aiden's true motive for being with Em in this endeavor.  Is it still about Takeda???

Okay, now my head is banging.  But I'm STILL not anxious for summer to end.  HATE winter!!

Welcome back, Miecies! We missed ya!

  I can't wait!  I have so missed my show!

I had read that an old interest of Daniel's was going to come on board - the French stewardess from the Pan Am TV show that didn't make it.  I hope she takes his mind off Emily because you all know I want my girl Ems to be with Jack.  She better not tie the knot with Daniel. 

Ems a sociopath in Prada?  No, she's just a girl that wants her revenge . . .

Victoria and Patrick together?  Ugh!(:  Wonder what Conrad will think about that?

Charlotte?  I heard she was going to have the baby and help Emily, too, so sounds like she's going to be busy.

Aiden?  I had read where he will be back, but not in what capacity.  I hope it's in person and not a flashback - I know you want to see him, Miecies.  He does make the show more interesting.

Takeda?  I still want the old Takeda back.  However, Takeda is dead, remember?
Nolan?  Our wild card.  He was in jail, wasn't he?  I definitely need to watch the last show again.

Singly, I hate winter, too!(:

I do hope this season exceeds all our expectations!

Thanks blue! I've had a busy summer which kept me away from the board.

Just read another spoiler by showrunner Sunil that the flash-forward season opening hook will be Emily getting married but we won't see the groom's face. I hope it's Daniel because I want Aiden's prediction that he would regret marrying her to come true. And plus it would just make for great drama.

Aiden is most definitely not dead. Several interviews by EVC, Barry Sloane and Sunil have confirmed that Aiden is alive and will be front and center in the new season and really mixing it up with the Hamptonites. No more hiding in the shadows. We will see Aiden w/Victoria, Jack, Nolan and of course Emily.

Nolan will be bent on revenge against the Graysons for their part in him being David Clarked.

miecies wrote:Thanks blue! I've had a busy summer which kept me away from the board.

Just read another spoiler by showrunner Sunil that the flash-forward season opening hook will be Emily getting married but we won't see the groom's face. I hope it's Daniel because I want Aiden's prediction that he would regret marrying her to come true. And plus it would just make for great drama.

Aiden is most definitely not dead. Several interviews by EVC, Barry Sloane and Sunil have confirmed that Aiden is alive and will be front and center in the new season and really mixing it up with the Hamptonites. No more hiding in the shadows. We will see Aiden w/Victoria, Jack, Nolan and of course Emily.

Nolan will be bent on revenge against the Graysons for their part in him being David Clarked.

You're welcome, Miecies!  As soon as Castlejoy gets back, the gang will all be here! 

It will be great drama if Emily marries Daniel, but I wonder what Jack will think about that.  If it takes marrying him to get her revenge, she might as well go ahead and do it since she's already sleeping with him.  I'd just have an unbreakable prenuptial, though, because I do think he is interested in her money.

I saw, too, where Aiden is going to get close to Victoria.  So, Emily can work her magic with Daniel and Aiden with Victoria.

I would not want to be on Nolan's bad side - he will reek havoc with their systems.

BlueMoon wrote

It will be great drama if Emily marries Daniel, but I wonder what Jack will think about that.  If it takes marrying him to get her revenge, she might as well go ahead and do it since she's already sleeping with him.  I'd just have an unbreakable prenuptial, though, because I do think he is interested in her money.

But spoilers indicate that Daniel will be embarking on a new business venture w/his French female business associate. They will be starting up a magazine together. I really don't think he's after Emily's money. For all his faults I do believe he truly loves her which makes Daniel such a tragic figure.

I had forgotten about Takeda's death.  Did we ever find out what his "mission" was?  **brain cells dropping on floor**

Yes, we do need castlejoy to make our forum complete.  I wish we could have gotten a couple others over the bridge.

I thought Em was supposed to go thru with a marriage to Daniel - pretty difficult to do under a time constraint from Jack.  lol.

singlyme wrote:I had forgotten about Takeda's death.  Did we ever find out what his "mission" was?  **brain cells dropping on floor**

I thought Em was supposed to go thru with a marriage to Daniel - pretty difficult to do under a time constraint from Jack.  lol.

 Takeda's mission was to repay the Graysons because his fiancee was on the plane. He was using both Emily & Aiden to fight his battle. That's all I got.

You know that ultimatum is a disaster waiting to happen. I think it might be what causes any chances of Jemily happening to vanish.

I so want Jemily to exist!  But, something tells me that Jack is going to get on his high horse and force Emily to choose, and we all know how that's going to go.  However, if he really loves her, I think he'll give her another chance, but I don't think he'll make it easy for her.  I don't foresee the two of them being happy together until the very end of the season.  Yes, I am hoping for a happy ending! 

I wonder if we'll hear from the Falcon again? 

I also wonder if Aiden will just get close to Victoria to make Emily jealous.  We all know he loves her.

I read something about how Patrick is really going to turn out to be a real mama's boy and try to help Victoria.  Looks like he can't be trusted then.

And Conrad - what is he doing in all this?

I wonder how tragic Ashley's death will be?

I haven't seen any previews yet, but I've noticed that they are starting to show previews of the other Sunday night shows.

I hope Falcon is one of the words that's never mentioned again on the show much like The Initiative. Talk about a story letdown.

I think Aiden will be holding something over Victoria re:Daniel and his fight at the end of the season. Plus the Graysons are broke and as far as they know Aiden's the one who stole their money. Victoria might actually be the one to approach Aiden with the intent to get their fortune back.

Spoilers indicate Emily will have a difficult time turning Patrick against Victoria.

Haven't heard anything on ole Connie. He had a ridiculous story arc if you asked me, governor of New York. That's such a limiting position and it takes him out of the Hamptons.

I hope Ashley isn't killed off. I actually don't think she will be. What would be the point?

LOL on Jack's high horse, bluemoon.  He's so lofty it would take a ladder for him to dismount.  It's been much of my problem with him.  And his attempted act at vengeance last season fell flat.  He was ready to shoot, go to prison, and leave Carl an orphan? Jack is a dull boy.

The writers did too much personality flipping last season - with characters going against the "character" that had previously been built.  The same goes for the actually nonexistent Initiative.  That was a total and complete anticlimax.  Regardless of how they did it, I'm happy that plot line evaporated.  But I'm afraid, mieces, we'll need the Falcon to get Nolan out of prison.  STILL can't figure out why the writers left him in that position.  It was enough of a cliffhanger with the mystery of who was shot.

Happy to know Aiden will be back.  I'm sure his presence in Vic's bed will be an info-gathering expedition.  I can't really picture Vic "trusting" anyone with her plans.  She and Conrad play it close to the vest.

I saw the article about Patrick being a mama's boy.  Geesh.  Ouch.  We just got Daniel wised up, and now we have to deal with another gullible sucker?

I can't figure out the governor angle either - unless Conrad's character has little part in the story with Patrick taking on the "crony" role in Vic's life.  I'd forgotten they ended up broke after Aiden drained the funds.  Perhaps I need to rewatch the last couple epis, though I don't know if they're available.  So keep reminding me of everyone's status at last season's end.

singlyme wrote:Jack is a dull boy.

Happy to know Aiden will be back.  I'm sure his presence in Vic's bed will be an info-gathering expedition.  I can't really picture Vic "trusting" anyone with her plans. 

I saw the article about Patrick being a mama's boy.  Geesh.  Ouch.  We just got Daniel wised up, and now we have to deal with another gullible sucker?

One spoiler I read said that Jack would turn to the bottle. Don't know for how long considering he has a child to raise. But I think they're attempting to make him less dull. Maybe?  
 

I don't think Aiden & Vic will literally be sleeping together. Hopefully it's a play on words. At least I hope it is. Whatever they're doing together you best believe there will not be a shred of sincerity in either of their actions.

I don't think Patrick is going to be Daniel gullible. He sounds more like he will become Tyler's brand of crazy w/an unhealthy attachment to his mother. I'm looking forward to it. Justin Hartley is a very good, versatile actor.

miecies wrote:I hope Falcon is one of the words that's never mentioned again on the show much like The Initiative. Talk about a story letdown.

I think Aiden will be holding something over Victoria re:Daniel and his fight at the end of the season. Plus the Graysons are broke and as far as they know Aiden's the one who stole their money. Victoria might actually be the one to approach Aiden with the intent to get their fortune back.

Spoilers indicate Emily will have a difficult time turning Patrick against Victoria.

Haven't heard anything on ole Connie. He had a ridiculous story arc if you asked me, governor of New York. That's such a limiting position and it takes him out of the Hamptons.

I hope Ashley isn't killed off. I actually don't think she will be. What would be the point?

Miecies,

I had forgotten that the Graysons are now broke. 

You're right about Aiden having something to hold over Victoria, and how she might be the one to appeal to him for his help.

Being governor does put Connie in a very limiting position.  Plus, we don't need to take the storyline away from Emily's Revenge - like what happened when the AI was in the picture.

Ashley?  I don't know.  They say she won't be back.  I just wonder how her exit will go.  There's already quite a bit of drama to deal with from the last episode, so I would think it wouldn't be another death.

singlyme wrote:LOL on Jack's high horse, bluemoon.  He's so lofty it would take a ladder for him to dismount.  It's been much of my problem with him.  And his attempted act at vengeance last season fell flat.  He was ready to shoot, go to prison, and leave Carl an orphan? Jack is a dull boy.

The writers did too much personality flipping last season - with characters going against the "character" that had previously been built.  The same goes for the actually nonexistent Initiative.  That was a total and complete anticlimax.  Regardless of how they did it, I'm happy that plot line evaporated.  But I'm afraid, mieces, we'll need the Falcon to get Nolan out of prison.  STILL can't figure out why the writers left him in that position.  It was enough of a cliffhanger with the mystery of who was shot.

Happy to know Aiden will be back.  I'm sure his presence in Vic's bed will be an info-gathering expedition.  I can't really picture Vic "trusting" anyone with her plans.  She and Conrad play it close to the vest.

I saw the article about Patrick being a mama's boy.  Geesh.  Ouch.  We just got Daniel wised up, and now we have to deal with another gullible sucker?

I can't figure out the governor angle either - unless Conrad's character has little part in the story with Patrick taking on the "crony" role in Vic's life.  I'd forgotten they ended up broke after Aiden drained the funds.  Perhaps I need to rewatch the last couple epis, though I don't know if they're available.  So keep reminding me of everyone's status at last season's end.

Singly,

Jack just wasn't thinking.  He really needs to team up with Emily, especially since he now knows who she really is.  They don't need a romance right now.  They just need to be friends, and team up to take down the Graysons.

I don't think Victoria will trust Aiden, either, but I think Aiden will get info that will help Emily's revenge.

Patrick - I didn't think about "another gullible sucker," but you're right - we don't need another one of those.(:  

The season finale had sooooo many big things happening . . .

miecies wrote:

singlyme wrote:Jack is a dull boy.

Happy to know Aiden will be back.  I'm sure his presence in Vic's bed will be an info-gathering expedition.  I can't really picture Vic "trusting" anyone with her plans. 

I saw the article about Patrick being a mama's boy.  Geesh.  Ouch.  We just got Daniel wised up, and now we have to deal with another gullible sucker?

One spoiler I read said that Jack would turn to the bottle. Don't know for how long considering he has a child to raise. But I think they're attempting to make him less dull. Maybe?  
 

I don't think Aiden & Vic will literally be sleeping together. Hopefully it's a play on words. At least I hope it is. Whatever they're doing together you best believe there will not be a shred of sincerity in either of their actions.

I don't think Patrick is going to be Daniel gullible. He sounds more like he will become Tyler's brand of crazy w/an unhealthy attachment to his mother. I'm looking forward to it. Justin Hartley is a very good, versatile actor.

Miecies,

I read that about Jack turning to the bottle, too.  Surely, that won't last long.  He doesn't have Declan to help him with Baby Carl anymore, Charlotte has her pregnancy to deal with in addition to Declan's death, and Ashley is supposed to make an exit.  Who will take care of Baby Carl?  Emily's pretty busy these days - plus, she's going to marry Daniel and move to Paris.

I think Aiden and Victoria will actually sleep together.  Victoria was quick to jump in that one guy's bed in order to further her cause near the end of last season.  Remember - the investor guy?  I agree that neither Aiden nor Victoria will have any sincerity about it.

Patrick is probably a little crazy - he's Victoria's son after all!

I just love this board!  The other one is so "public."

   

BlueMoon wrote:Jack just wasn't thinking.  He really needs to team up with Emily, especially since he now knows who she really is.  They don't need a romance right now.  They just need to be friends, and team up to take down the Graysons.

Sorry blue but Jack won't be following Emily down the revenge path according to separate interviews by EVC and Nick. EVC feels to pull Jack in would jeopardize Emily's integrity. In her mind Emily would never want Jack to be touched by her plans and she wants to protect Jack at all cost. (little bit too late for that if you ask me but carry on.) And according to Nick, things are not good between Emily & Jack. He considers her responsible for everything that has happened to his wife (who he loved, his words not mine). Not to mention she's being lying to him for 2 years. Plus he's all about pouring (pun not intended) more love into his child than getting revenge on the Grayson.

BlueMoon wrote:

I think Aiden and Victoria will actually sleep together.  Victoria was quick to jump in that one guy's bed in order to further her cause near the end of last season.  Remember - the investor guy?  I agree that neither Aiden nor Victoria will have any sincerity about it.

Yeah I remember Jason Prosser and she did it ultimately to protect Daniel. Plus there were unrequited feelings on both their parts. So maybe she will do it again. But I just don't see Aiden actually propositioning Victoria that way. He doesn't come across as a man who would need to blackmail someone to have sex with him. Because that is what Prosser did to Victoria.

Not to mention in an interview Josh Bowman stated that the French business associate Daniel will be starting a magazine with is slated to be the love interest of someone on the canvas. She's described as sexy, ballsy and very confident. She will cause problems for Emily.  Which leads me to believe that she will bed Aiden which will fire up the green-eyed monster in Emily. Bowman also said that there will be lots of conflicts for Daniel&Emily and he (Daniel) will begin to question some of her actions. Charlotte will also begin to look at their relationship and note Emily's lack of committment.

miecies wrote:

BlueMoon wrote:Jack just wasn't thinking.  He really needs to team up with Emily, especially since he now knows who she really is.  They don't need a romance right now.  They just need to be friends, and team up to take down the Graysons.

Sorry blue but Jack won't be following Emily down the revenge path according to separate interviews by EVC and Nick. EVC feels to pull Jack in would jeopardize Emily's integrity. In her mind Emily would never want Jack to be touched by her plans and she wants to protect Jack at all cost. (little bit too late for that if you ask me but carry on.) And according to Nick, things are not good between Emily & Jack. He considers her responsible for everything that has happened to his wife (who he loved, his words not mine). Not to mention she's being lying to him for 2 years. Plus he's all about pouring (pun not intended) more love into his child than getting revenge on the Grayson.

BlueMoon wrote:

I think Aiden and Victoria will actually sleep together.  Victoria was quick to jump in that one guy's bed in order to further her cause near the end of last season.  Remember - the investor guy?  I agree that neither Aiden nor Victoria will have any sincerity about it.

Yeah I remember Jason Prosser and she did it ultimately to protect Daniel. Plus there were unrequited feelings on both their parts. So maybe she will do it again. But I just don't see Aiden actually propositioning Victoria that way. He doesn't come across as a man who would need to blackmail someone to have sex with him. Because that is what Prosser did to Victoria.

Not to mention in an interview Josh Bowman stated that the French business associate Daniel will be starting a magazine with is slated to be the love interest of someone on the canvas. She's described as sexy, ballsy and very confident. She will cause problems for Emily.  Which leads me to believe that she will bed Aiden which will fire up the green-eyed monster in Emily. Bowman also said that there will be lots of conflicts for Daniel&Emily and he (Daniel) will begin to question some of her actions. Charlotte will also begin to look at their relationship and note Emily's lack of committment.

Miecies,

Well, darn . . . It's probably better, though, for Emily to keep on trying to protect Jack.  However, as more time goes by, I think she is going to have less and less chance of finally winning him over.  It's going to take something really big to open his eyes - and that will probably happen near the conclusion of everything.  Until then, he'll probably just continue to be the "protected" childhood love interest of Emily that kind of stays in the background, and he'll continue to think of her as someone who lies and will do anything for revenge.  (I can see him shaking his head about her now.)  It's also good for Jack to concentrate on Baby Carl.  Maybe, his eyes were opened to how getting revenge would probably make him feel worse when he almost pulled that trigger.  It's nice that he loved Amanda even though she really wasn't Amanda.  They did have some good times.  It was when Emily kept asking her to do things for her that there were conflicts between Amanda and Jack, and that was really pretty selfish of Emily.

Maybe, there's a possible romance between Charlotte and Jack?

Oh, that's right, there were some "unrequited" feelings between Vicky and Prosser.  I don't think Aiden would do this for blackmail, but I think he would do it to get information or to mess with Vicky's mind. 

Now, if the new girl starts an affair with Aiden, I agree that Emily will not take that well.  I tend to think she'll go for Daniel.  I think Daniel has been secretly questioning Emily's actions for quite awhile now.

Very interesting interview w/EVC & Nick.

Jemily: Do They Have a Chance?

The writers painted themselves into a corner by giving Jack a child.  I understand that a pregnant Amanda was a foil for Em & Jack's budding relationship.  But when they then decided to kill off the Amanda character, it left them with a dilemma.  They couldn't drown a baby - so it became excess baggage for Jack.

He's either a loving and devoted single dad (boring in a drama such as this) or an inattentive one, palming off baby Carl (not attractive) to whomever will watch him.  See what I mean?  No matter how they treat Jack's character, the baby has killed whatever charisma they left in him.  First, they took him from a scruffy yet appealing lost love to a wuss.  Then rash and irresponsible, with no thought to what would become of his son after he shot Vic.  Now, they're going to weaken him further by making him a lush? 

The same goes for Charlotte having a baby.  She's always been troubled.  So this will make her grow up and become smarter, I suppose?  They should really leave babies out of the equation on a show like this.  There will always be judgments on parenting.  It's a no-win situation.

singlyme wrote:The writers painted themselves into a corner by giving Jack a child.....they then decided to kill off the Amanda character, it left them with a dilemma.  They couldn't drown a baby - so it became excess baggage for Jack.

He's either a loving and devoted single dad (boring in a drama such as this) or an inattentive one, palming off baby Carl (not attractive) to whomever will watch him.  See what I mean?  No matter how they treat Jack's character, the baby has killed whatever charisma they left in him. 

And they're saying this season will be sexier and I'm trying to figure out how Jack will play into that type of show considering where his character will be. There's nothing attractive about the Jack you just described. He's not going down the revenge path. He's grieveing the lost of his wife and brother. In rage over a huge deception by a girl he thought was pure as the driven snow. Emptying out his bar via drowning his sorrows. All the while parenting a son by a woman he didn't really know. Typing all this just made me feel sorry for Jack (a very great feat I might add). I think it's time for Jack to pack it up and find a fresh start w/Carl somewhere else.

singlyme wrote:The same goes for Charlotte having a baby......They should really leave babies out of the equation on a show like this.

Oh I think they're about to fix this one. A notable character is rushed to the emergency room in Episode 4. It will be a life-death situation. Got to be Charlotte losing the baby.

We certainly don't need more strollers on this show.  And if it's Charlotte's loss, it'll free her up to babysit Carl.

Perhaps they'll use the first three episodes to go back and forth about whether or not she'll continue the pregancy.  Vic pushing for an abortion, due to the father's pedigree - and Charlotte hating to let go of her last piece of Declan.  For me, the Charlotte/Declan story line has always been nuisance filler.  She won't fit in to this particular series unless they grow her up.

In regard to feeling sorry for Jack.... It's irksome that the writers took a perfectly good character and killed him off piece-by-piece.  About all that's left is actual death.  I can't see how they'd ever make him the studly man in our drama.  LOL. 

Oh goodness no, please don't kill Jack. That would leave Carl orphaned and really as much as I rag on Jack I would hate it for his fans. After everything he's been through (now it appears he's about to lose the last link to his brother) the guy deserves some happiness. At this point I just don't buy it could ever be with Emily.