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Post by lb0114 Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:13 pm

Wow - Samantha is gorgeous - which bachelor let her get away so quickly again?

Joe is a scumbag - I hope he is ostracized by Bachelor Nation after this.

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Post by Sharonbee Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:35 pm

Yeah,  Sam is way too pretty for Joe. we still haven't heard her say much, maybe she's dumb.
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Post by Starz Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:06 pm

lb0114 wrote:Wow - Samantha is gorgeous - which bachelor let her get away so quickly again?

Joe is a scumbag - I hope he is ostracized by Bachelor Nation after this.

Chris S dumped her right away.

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Post by chelleb70 Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:42 pm

I wasn't going to watch this season but I was flipping through the channels and have been watching for 10 minutes.  I figured out in that time why I wasn't going to watch it.  These people are disgusting.  Mainly Joe.  What a d-bag!!

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Post by Lesallee Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:03 am

Samantha my dear, you aren't exactly Snow White are you? 


I'm sure I will have more to say tomorrow but for now....


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Post by Glittersisgld Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:15 am

Samantha is kind of a mannequin.

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:14 am

I would have thought Samantha and Joe could have found someplace more private to carry out their rather long make-out session.  I got tired of it after a while.  She might not have said much on Chris' season but on BIP she is showing that actions speak louder than words.  JMHO.

Joe is one of the poorest examples of a human being I've seen in a while.  If it's the edit, than I feel sorry for him.  But have not seen one positive thing about him yet.  He used Juelia in a terrible way.

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Post by singlyme Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:52 am

Several things I noticed:

It could have been from heavy sleep, but in her first scene, Tenley's eyes appeared puffy from crying.  Later, when she hugged Juelia, it looked like a huge scrape on her left cheekbone.

I'll give Kirk props for opting for a motel instead of a romp on the beach.  Otherwise, our linked couples seem pretty quiet this season.

Oh, anyone catch the bit about Ashley S. showing Dan her crazy side.  I have to wonder what that was about.  I know many like her, but to me, those eyes have a strange and vacant stare at times.

Juelia needs to gather her dignity out of the ashes and exchange that hurt for some righteous anger. 

Joe and Samantha?  That hot tub display got nauseating after a while.  Given the prolonged kissing, that gave way to "Oh, God, Oh God," followed by an end to the kissing - I think they need to drain that hot tub. 

Joe is even more disgusting than Chris Bukowski.  He knows only what he wants and to hell with everyone else's feelings or opinions. 

From MD Health:  Medically, sociopathy is termed as antisocial personality disorder. It is defined as "a mental health condition in which a person has a long-term pattern of manipulating, exploiting, or violating the rights of others."

I don't know about long-term, but Joe fits the description above - at least, from what we've seen of him on the show.  We can only hope Juelia's talk with Samantha will give us justice.

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:23 am

Singly -- I can't remember when I've seen you make such an in-depth analysis.  Great post!!  Flowers



IMHO, Juelia should pack her bags and go home.  Why get angry over an idiot like Joe?  She will find someone outside the bubble and probably be happier.  Too many people with emotional hang-ups on this show.

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Post by BHGma Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:36 am

singlyme wrote:Several things I noticed:

It could have been from heavy sleep, but in her first scene, Tenley's eyes appeared puffy from crying.  Later, when she hugged Juelia, it looked like a huge scrape on her left cheekbone.

I'll give Kirk props for opting for a motel instead of a romp on the beach.  Otherwise, our linked couples seem pretty quiet this season.

Oh, anyone catch the bit about Ashley S. showing Dan her crazy side.  I have to wonder what that was about.  I know many like her, but to me, those eyes have a strange and vacant stare at times.

Juelia needs to gather her dignity out of the ashes and exchange that hurt for some righteous anger. 

Joe and Samantha?  That hot tub display got nauseating after a while.  Given the prolonged kissing, that gave way to "Oh, God, Oh God," followed by an end to the kissing - I think they need to drain that hot tub. 

Joe is even more disgusting than Chris Bukowski.  He knows only what he wants and to hell with everyone else's feelings or opinions. 

From MD Health:  Medically, sociopathy is termed as antisocial personality disorder. It is defined as "a mental health condition in which a person has a long-term pattern of manipulating, exploiting, or violating the rights of others."

I don't know about long-term, but Joe fits the description above - at least, from what we've seen of him on the show.  We can only hope Juelia's talk with Samantha will give us justice.

Yes, that was disgusting to watch. I couldn't believe what I was seeing & hearing. If they don't drain the hot tub, let's at least hope that they dump a gallon of clorox in it. Gross. 


I'm hoping after Juelia talks to Samantha Joe gets dumped. There is something dead & shark-like behind Joe's eyes. I think your assessment of him may be correct. 
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Post by WesternRomanceWtr Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:02 am

newto wrote:IMHO, Juelia should pack her bags and go home.  Why get angry over an idiot like Joe?  She will find someone outside the bubble and probably be happier.  Too many people with emotional hang-ups on this show.
I agree. Juelia seems like a nice gal. Very sweet and kind and well-liked by both men and women in the house. At first, I felt sorry for her, Joe used her to get a rose and stay until Samantha arrived (don't tell me this wasn't planned - Joe had to know Samantha was coming and visa-versa). But now, Juelia is wearing on me. Her emotions and crying jags seem over the top for a guy she really just met and "went on ONE date". I'd like her to feel better and stronger about herself, pick herself up, dust herself off and say, "Your loss, Joe and, as for me, I dodged a bullet. Now, onto the decent guy who deserves me."
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Post by Lesallee Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:27 am

Soapbox So the undeniably beautiful Samantha arrives on the scene, fulfilling Jerky Joe's (pre-arranged) wishes. Juelia, poor dear, is happy because Samantha is her very good friend. But does Sam scope out the couples situation before immediately grabbing Joe for her date? Why no, she just  attaches herself to him and never lets go. You would imagine she would have talked to her "really good friend, Juelia (and others)" before making that move. 


The way Sam and Jerky J were fused together in the hot tub was amazing and soon turned off putting to this viewer. I really did not want to see those two blatantly and publicly having sex. Juelia saw those shenanigans, why on earth doesn't she gather her dignity and go home? 


Dan decides he is so morally offended by the Sam/Joe act that he is going to avenge Juelia's tattered pride all on his own driven by his sense of chivalry. But wait, the preview shows Dan on a date with the busy Samantha! Could it be that Dan wasn't pursuing Justice For Juelia as much as he was chasing Samantha for himself? 


This whole thing feels like a fabricated, producer driven manipulation to me and rather disgusts me. I should stop watching BIP I think. 


Is the newly arrived Megan really that clueless? I seem to recall she was quite interesting and certainly intelligent enough on her date with Chris Soules last Bach season. Oh well, I guess she has a role to play and Ashley S. has sort of let the team down by acting totally sane. Time for reinforcement in the wacko department.
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Post by Glittersisgld Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:50 am

singlyme wrote:Oh, anyone catch the bit about Ashley S. showing Dan her crazy side. 

From MD Health:  Medically, sociopathy is termed as antisocial personality disorder. It is defined as "a mental health condition in which a person has a long-term pattern of manipulating, exploiting, or violating the rights of others."

I don't know about long-term, but Joe fits the description above - at least, from what we've seen of him on the show.  We can only hope Juelia's talk with Samantha will give us justice.
I agree about Ashley S.  I wish they would have gotten into more detail about what Dan experienced of Ashley.  I agree she is off. 

And yes, I'm sure Joe is a sociopath.  They have no conscience.

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Post by moon0627 Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:19 pm

This show is so staged.  Dont tell me the producers didnt plan it to go this way.  They knew Joe was a creep and using Juelia to get a rose.  What i dont get is why Tanner didnt speak up.  Seems pretty cruel to let it go on like that knowing how hurtful it was.  And now it looks like her so called friend Sam doesnt care that Joe treated Juelia badly.  Well, these people are asking for it by going on a TV show to find love...  Crying
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Post by singlyme Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:45 pm

You're right, moon.  Joe spoke in front of the guys that he was waiting for Samantha.  Why didn't all these defender's of Juelia's go into action before she gave the rose to Joe?

Lesallee, I thought the promos showed Dan on a date with Megan next week.  Was it really Samantha???

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Post by Glittersisgld Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:55 pm

Yes, I think it was Megan.  I thought he has crazy taste in women.

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Post by Lesallee Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:27 pm

singlyme wrote:You're right, moon.  Joe spoke in front of the guys that he was waiting for Samantha.  Why didn't all these defender's of Juelia's go into action before she gave the rose to Joe?

Lesallee, I thought the promos showed Dan on a date with Megan next week.  Was it really Samantha???
Could be Megan, singly. My mind wanders a smidgeon while watching BIP!  Question
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Post by dori1333 Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:08 pm

Soapbox I was so disgusted by that show last night.I came on but no one was talking about it yet! I Imagine we all have different times the show is on ,so I decided to wait and see if anyone agreed with me! Im glad to see you all did! I cant see how anyone can find any meaningful relationships with this crew! So many tears ,so much drama!
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Post by singlyme Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:12 am

Sharonbee wrote:Yeah,  Sam is way too pretty for Joe. we still haven't heard her say much, maybe she's dumb.

I guess we learned differently on Monday's episode.  She's the brains behind this scam.  lol

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Post by singlyme Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:13 am

Lesallee wrote:
singlyme wrote:You're right, moon.  Joe spoke in front of the guys that he was waiting for Samantha.  Why didn't all these defender's of Juelia's go into action before she gave the rose to Joe?

Lesallee, I thought the promos showed Dan on a date with Megan next week.  Was it really Samantha???
Could be Megan, singly. My mind wanders a smidgeon while watching BIP!  Question

As it turns out, it was Amber.  I don't even remember her but she seems too young for Dan.

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Post by Glittersisgld Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:35 am

I think Samantha has a dial tone personality.

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Post by slacknatwork Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:32 pm

Was Amber's hair like a spiral perm on Chris' season? I know she was looked different but can't put my finger on it.
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Post by Lesallee Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:46 pm

Kaitlyn has sex behind closed doors (albeit with the addition of the prying, eavesdropping mics) and she is excoriated and called every filthy name imaginable. Samantha, blatantly and publicly performs a sexual act on Joe and all she is reprimanded for is betraying a friend. Very strange!


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Post by Starz Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:56 pm

Lesallee wrote:Kaitlyn has sex behind closed doors (albeit with the addition of the prying, eavesdropping mics) and she is excoriated and called every filthy name imaginable. Samantha, blatantly and publicly performs a sexual act on Joe and all she is reprimanded for is betraying a friend. Very strange!


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Maybe it was too subtle for many to "grasp it" ?? Laughing

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