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Post by Maria Christine on Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:06 pm

I honestly have no idea which dancers are coming back.  Sharna said a while back during an interview about her judging in Australia that she was planning on coming back but that was before the auditions for pros and troupe.  I can't see her getting cut since she's one of the most popular current pros and she just won (even if it was controversial).  I'm a little worried about Emma and Sasha, they've been demoted and cut before.  

If there are new pros or troupe dancers then they have to be promoted more like when Lindsay, Witney and Gleb joined in season 16 or like Allison, Artem and Keo were showcased in season 19; it's harder now though I think because results shows where they have time to do more of that stuff, rarely happen.  

Jenna did a couple of trios before she finally got promoted but she was still unknown and ended up being the first boot.  

Alan, I think benefited from filling in for Mark and Maks and being in trios for three seasons in a row; plus he had Maks and Val saying he should be a pro, Alan and Maks appeared on GMA during the season 25 pro announcement when Alan finally got promoted so he had some attention prior to his debut.  He may have been the second boot but people definitely remembered him.  

Prior to becoming a pro, Brandon had never been in a trio or filled in for a pro and he didn't get any attention as a first time pro like those in the past.  

I feel like even if Hayley, who's been in the troupe the longest of last season's troupe dancers, became a pro she and her partner would have trouble getting as much attention as the other couples because she would be new and unknown to those who don't frequent social media like her stans and because new pros aren't paid much attention like in the past seasons.  On Strictly, there's usually a dance number in the launch show that introduces and highlights the new pros.  Just another reason getting rid of the result shows was a bad idea.
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Post by luvthepros on Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:14 pm

peebeeb wrote:Anyone know how Peta's movie did?
I saw Peta's movie in the theater. I liked it. Peta was a better actress than I thought she would be but she is certainly not an Oscar worthy actress. I loved watching the dancing on the big movie theater screen. It was worth the price of admission just for the dancing.
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Post by luvthepros on Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:41 pm

Glittersisgld wrote:I think it's a mistake to just stick with ballroom and Latin dancing.  I like to see other kinds of dances.  I don't think that's what is wrong with the show, but I do think they need bigger stars.  Why do they need different pros when the pros who are on the show already know how to do Latin and ballroom dancing?
I respectfully disagree. There are other shows which feature other styles of dance much more heavily than DWTS. SYTYCD comes to mind (which I LOVE BTW). I truly believe DWTS is making the right move to go back to basics with the show format. Ballroom is what made this show a huge hit and I think that is what will bring back their core audience. I've been there through thick and thin and I'm longing for the original format to make a resurgence.

Bobby Bones as winner last season almost made me not ever want to watch this show again. He was the single worst winner ever of this show. That travesty can not happen again! Hopefully, the producers will cast celebs who will be worthy winners. Is that too much to hope for?
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Post by luvthepros on Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:43 pm

Maria Christine wrote:Hayley, Britt and Morgan came on without a Latin or ballroom background, they might get cut in favor of dancers who specialize in Latin and ballroom.
Ballroom specialists is what this show needs more than the versatile dancers such as Haley, Britt and Morgan (not sure which one Morgan is). I'm referring to the pros, not the troupe BTW. The show began with all ballroom specialists as pros and hopefully the new format will actually be reminiscent of the original format. Fingers crossed!!!
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Post by luvthepros on Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:46 pm

Glittersisgld wrote:They were the troupe dancers though, weren't they?  They weren't put together with any celebrities?  Boy, I think they are worrying about the wrong things.  Who do they think is watching this show?  It could be the show has just run its course.
Never! More DWTS please.
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Post by luvthepros on Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:53 pm

Maria Christine wrote:.......Morgan (along with Britt) was a dancer in La La Land so she had the Mandy Moore connection which probably helped her get in some numbers in season 25.  She also replaced Witney on the tour when Witney dropped out to spend time with her late father-in-law.  Morgan became an official troupe member in season 26 but you can tell next to other dancers, even Hayley, that she's not a natural Latin or ballroom dancer.  Since Mandy isn't a big part of DWTS now and since Morgan didn't do the next tour she might be cut.  
I'm not and never have been a dancer but I've been watching competition ballroom dancing since &*%$#@ years ago. I'm old!!!

Anyway.....I honestly don't think having natural ability for Latin ballroom is necessarily what makes a great ballroom dancer. Training, training and more training is what is required. Having the best instructors such as Shirley Ballas is what is required. Blazing the competition circuit is also required to become a seasoned ballroom dancer.

The best DWTS ever had was Karina Smirnoff. No one came close to her expertise except Louis Van Amstel who still was not up to her caliber.

Speaking of Louis Van Amstel......now that Mandy Moore is not going to be part of the show's choreography on a week to week basis, bring back Louis. He choreographed several of the tour shows. What this show needs is a champion Ballroom dancer for the choreography of the group numbers.
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Post by Glittersisgld on Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:58 pm

luvthepros wrote:
Glittersisgld wrote:I think it's a mistake to just stick with ballroom and Latin dancing.  I like to see other kinds of dances.  I don't think that's what is wrong with the show, but I do think they need bigger stars.  Why do they need different pros when the pros who are on the show already know how to do Latin and ballroom dancing?
I respectfully disagree. There are other shows which feature other styles of dance much more heavily than DWTS. SYTYCD comes to mind (which I LOVE BTW). I truly believe DWTS is making the right move to go back to basics with the show format. Ballroom is what made this show a huge hit and I think that is what will bring back their core audience. I've been there through thick and thin and I'm longing for the original format to make a resurgence.

Bobby Bones as winner last season almost made me not ever want to watch this show again. He was the single worst winner ever of this show. That travesty can not happen again! Hopefully, the producers will cast celebs who will be worthy winners. Is that too much to hope for?
This is the only dance show I watch and want to watch because I like the way it's formatted, and the fact that they have "celebrities" on it makes it more interesting to me.  I've tried watching a few others, but I don't get into them.  So just for my personal taste, I would rather they keep the variety and I am well over forty, so this is not the youth speaking.  I'm just young at heart.  I also feel dancing is dancing and if you enjoy dance, you should enjoy all kinds of dancing.

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Post by luvthepros on Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:58 pm

Maria Christine wrote: I'm a little worried about Emma and Sasha, they've been demoted and cut before.  


Sasha and Emma choreographed the Ballroom round for So You Think You Can Dance Academy call backs. Looks like they have a job with Fox.
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Post by Glittersisgld on Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:07 pm

I was under the impression that a professional or natural dancer can dance any kind of dance if they are taught.  I think most professional dancers have taken ballet or at least could perform ballet if taught.  There may be some dancing that certain dancers excel at, but basically I thought if you are a dancer, you can do any dance maybe with different proficiencies.

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Post by luvthepros on Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:22 pm

Glittersisgld wrote:This is the only dance show I watch and want to watch because I like the way it's formatted, and the fact that they have "celebrities" on it makes it more interesting to me.  I've tried watching a few others, but I don't get into them.  So just for my personal taste, I would rather they keep the variety and I am well over forty, so this is not the youth speaking.  I'm just young at heart.  I also feel dancing is dancing and if you enjoy dance, you should enjoy all kinds of dancing.
I get it. However....this season of SYTYCD has some great talent and looks to be a fantastic season. Look for a guy named Gino. He is my favorite right out of the gate when I saw his audition. Made me cry.....twice when I watched both times. These semi professional dancers are absolutely wonderful to watch. I actually enjoy SYTYCD more than DWTS.

Anyway....even if other dance shows are not to your taste, that is what makes the world go round. Enjoy the show.
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Post by luvthepros on Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:26 pm

Glittersisgld wrote:I was under the impression that a professional or natural dancer can dance any kind of dance if they are taught.  I think most professional dancers have taken ballet or at least could perform ballet if taught.  There may be some dancing that certain dancers excel at, but basically I thought if you are a dancer, you can do any dance maybe with different proficiencies.
I have no idea about natural ability. I just know that to be a professional ballroom dancer it takes many many years of training. Even Karina trained for many years while she was competing. Training is what it takes to be proficient and dominate the sport of Ballroom Dancing.
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Post by Glittersisgld on Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:57 pm

I was more responding to Marie Christine's remark about Morgan not being a natural or ballroom dancer.  I should have made it clear.  Yes, the training is important, because I would think that anyone who is a dancer is a natural.  So I guess Morgan would need more training.

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Post by Oakma on Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:35 am

I think you can train to be a great dancer without "natural" talent also.The thing is you have to really love it and not just go through the motions.


I trained for my job and although I had no "natural" ability at first I became really great at it.


I do wish that DWTS would go back to classic dancing,it is a wonderful art form and like was mentioned before there are enough other shows for the rest of the styles for folks to watch.


I also wish for more dance features and a lot less "producing" of drama and the "winners" being featured and pushed forward right out of the gate. 
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Post by Glittersisgld on Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:56 am

You have to at least have a sense of rhythm to dance well.  Some people are just klutzes or there is no way they are going to become good dancers.  I would like to be a great singer, but I doubt that would ever happen.  I don't watch any other dance shows on any other stations and don't have a desire to.  I like the way DWTS is set up and the fact that they use celebrities or near celebrities, so that is why I like the fact that they do other dances.  I don't want it to be like a PBS show.

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Post by Oakma on Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:22 pm

It will be nice to see some dancing of any kind.It has been so long since the last show and I did not watch that whole season when it was so clear that the best dancer was not going to be the winner.


I like you only watch this show so I want it to be about dancing and not the made up drama and the promotion of the "winner" from day one.


I do wish they would bring Karina back  ... love her style and she is so talented.
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Post by Maria Christine on Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:35 pm

Pure said that Emma, Gleb, Keo, Lindsay, Sasha and Val are returning.  Us Weekly also leaked that Peta is coming back and Peta herself confirmed it on Instagram.
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Post by Oakma on Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:01 am

Well ... as usual I will have to look up most of the cast but when you do not watch much television it is hard to know who they are.


I know Christie B is/was a model and I did see the Ver Der Beek fellow in a christmas movie once.That is pretty good for me,I usually do not know anyone ... Smile
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Post by Glittersisgld on Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:49 am

The cast isn't that impressive for having to wait this long.  I'll be interested to see how Hannah B does on the show.

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Post by Maria Christine on Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:13 pm

I actually know most of these people!

Lauren Alaina
Christie Brinkley
Ally Brooke
Hannah Brown
Kate Flannery
Ray Lewis (unfortunately)
Kel Mitchell
Lamar Odom
Sean Spicer (unfortunately)
James Van Der Beek

I don't watch Queer Eye but I really should, Karamo seems fun and I know The Supremes but only Diana and Florence.
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Post by moo2meow Yesterday at 4:43 pm

Again, most of the contestants this year are unknown to me. I know only two of them. TPTB sure don't care about the older people who watch,(or should I say watched), this show. And if all the flack about people being P.O'ed about Spicer just shut up and not vote for him. He'll be gone soon enough.
Will probably watch the first show only. See the "big" changes they alluded to.
We could've done without Peta coming back.  Sick
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Post by Glittersisgld Yesterday at 5:10 pm

What's wrong with Peta?  I guess you have something personal against her, but she is one of the things I like about this show.  At least that's something for me to look forward to.  There are a few pros I'm not that crazy about.  Maybe I'll warm up to some of the celebs once I see them.  I'm in the older age group, but I certainly wouldn't want to just see a bunch of older people on the show.  I'm not sure if that's what you meant.

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Post by Oakma Today at 9:06 am

I do not think the show is any more "new" than other seasons.We have the same line up of cast that we always do.They always throw in an older person and one who people just do not like  ( Psst  ... that adds the drama ) and try to get some talk going.


Then there will be the obvious favourite/winner they pay all the attention to.


     .... And the Winner is   ... no surprise !!!


I just want to see some dancing and I am hoping they put the new dance couple in the spotlight a few times.To have a championship couple do a few feature dances would be fantastic.
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