Episode 5 - 6/24 - The Bachelorette 9 - Discussion

Wow.. Michael really goes after Ben. Thanks for the preview SLA.

I don't like either of them.  I hope she sends them both home.  JMHO.

Thanks for the link, SLA.  Looks like Monday will be a hot mess.  Chris' date interrupted by a man with shocking news.  Did we see Bryden come in on that clip - with a message that he's leaving?  If so, it's a shame he didn't leave last week and give Zack a chance.

IMHO, I don't think you can blame the edit for what I see in Ben.  We know from past experience that when most of the entire group doesn't like you, something's wrong.  Ben has been sneaky.  Ben has been conniving and Ben has been an opportunist.  Ben is smug.  They've stated that while he used his son when he first appeared, he hasn't mentioned him at all in conversation.

But did Des really ASK Michael to be an interrogator - or did he take this upon himself?  If he acted alone, not attractive to do this in Des' presence.  A prosecutor to the end, huh?  Why do the contestants never, as a group, relate these observations to the lead?

Now, Brooks and James go at it?  I haven't cared for James.  When I think of him, my mental image is a plastic surgery that got pulled too tight.  Yet...in the picture, he has full cheeks.  Don't ask me to expain.  I can't.  lol.  Must be a personal aversion to his look and build.

I hope this date with Chris goes well (despite Bryden).  He seems like a truly nice guy.  The preview text calls Brooks the front-runner?  I hadn't realized it was perceived that way.  H-m-m-m.  Okay.  If so, I'd still like to see more of Chris and Zak (with his hair combed down.)

SLA44 wrote:Wow here is another clip from Monday night's 2-on-1 date from People.com:


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20711236,00.html

I think she should send them both packing!

Hopefully she will send both of them packing. It has happened before; I think Ashley sent both guys home on a 2 on 1 date (correct me if I'm wrong).

Michael is a jerk!  I actually think he is worse then Ben.  That sure must have  been an uncomfortable 2 on 1 date when all Michael did was attack Ben.   Mickey is another whiner.  Bryden doesn't want to be there.  Juan Pablo has looks but not too much upstairs, James seems fake and can't stand his overly processed white teeth and plastic face, Kasey I'm not sure about, Brooks makes my skin crawl.  My pick for the last two are Chris and Zak.  Both of them actually appear to have some maturity and brains.

Have to say that at the beginning of the season Michael was one of my top pics.  Based on his bio and career I ASSUMED he would be quite the man.  I think of a federal prosecutor being articulate and educated with a strong personality (although I am sure there are many shady fed prosecutors out there).  I did not like Zak W at all (as we called him the nudist).  Didn't care for his looks, his "showing off" his body, etc.  (Now I believe that was all producer driven).  

However, at this point I have done a total 180.  Michael has turned out to be one of the biggest whiners I have ever seen on this show and they continue to give him all this air time (as they did with AshLee).  I find him so unattractive in every way, I can barely stand to watch or listen to him.  On the other hand, I am liking Zak more and more.  His looks have become secondary to his charm.  I don't see him as whiney or boastful, but a very kind, considerate, interesting man.  Chris has got the looks and is kind and considerate as well.  

I guess my point is, sometimes we judge too quickly based bios and what TPTB want us to see.  It's just too bad that they don't give more air time to the nicer, more well-balanced men.  These are the guys I would like to know more about.

I hope Des does more than "consider" sending them both home.  Next, Bryden, James and Mikey.  But I'm sure TPTB would find that much too peaceful.  BUT, we do have the James issue coming up.  Maybe he'll take Ben's place as the house bad guy for a couple of weeks.

I don't find Brooks masculine enough for my tastes.  Too pretty.  I really prefer a rugged-looking guy, craggy rather than sculpted.  Just me. 

I believe I mentioned before that it was revealed Zak's limo entry was a play on Sean's shirtless season, which caused me to replace the demerits I gave him the first night.  The pool?  Unfortunate.  Unless something's going on behind the scenes (like Sean and Catherine), I can't see anyone but Chris and Zak as the final two.  However....if Kasey keeps up that sharp sense of humor, she might lean his way.

Bryden's possible girlfriend? Looks a little like Des. 


http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/tv/becky-weidow-the-bachelorette-contestant-bryden-vukasins-secret-girlfriend/

I'm not sure I'm even going to watch it, and that is a lot coming from someone who has NEVER missed an episode from day one. For sure I'll put it on tape so if I decide I can't resist, I can watch without having to endure the commercials. This whole season is surely a sign of the franchise falling apart, sad to say.

When you get right down to it, the whole show is a formula - just like romantic comedies.  Only there's little comedy here.  More the ridiculous.  They've run out of new things, new people, new dates.  What's left?  To avoid boredom, they went into heavy scripting and irritating people.  Now, instead of being bored, we're annoyed.

One thing I forgot to mention before was I noticed how fast Des went through the rose ceremony last episode - almost like it was a distasteful task she wanted to get done with ASAP. I wonder if she will do the same tonight. If so, it will prove how little connection she has with the majority of the bachelors. JMHO.

So Bryden goes all the way to Germany and then has to interrupt her date with Chris??  He just could not wait until the date was over??  How rude and inconsiderate can one get??  At least she didn't spend much time with him making a big hoopla out of it.  She even expressed her thoughts to Chris in wondering why he came all the way to Germany to tell her this.  Bryden knew last week he wanted to go home.  He should have left then.

Michael is a disgusting, whiney man who needs to grow up.  He is the kind of guy who thinks he looks better by tearing someone else down.  I do think she should have sent both packing.

I did like the one on one date with Chris and the group date sledding.  I thought Zak W actually looked cute when he was out there yodelling.  I also liked the date idea of the hot tub on the water.....just did not like the two guys on the date.

I thought Des looked really pretty at the Rose ceremony.  Liked her hair style and she looked elegant.

Did they call that hot tub a hot tug boat? Whatever it was, I had never seen or heard of it before, but it looked fun. I'd go on that.

I wish she would have let both guys go on the 2 and 1 date. That would have been more dramatic for the show too. Then she could have also let Mikey go at the rose ceremony. 

I still think Chris is the best long term match for Des. I missed part of the episode. Did Zak say he was planning on being a priest? It does seem like they tried to get some religious guys for Des. They probably don't have a huge pool of applicants for that, since most religious guys probably would not apply for the show.